Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis at the Alabama pro-day (2 Viewers)

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That really just doesn't make any sense.
Well, my opinion has as much value as yours, even when the tone may defer.
I come around here open minded, trying to learn and give something to think about to fellow posters.

It is just opinions, nobody around here can predict with certainty what will happen.
 

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Well, my opinion has as much value as yours, even when the tone may defer.
I come around here open minded, trying to learn and give something to think about to fellow posters.

It is just opinions, nobody around here can predict with certainty what will happen.
It just doesn't make sense to me is all I'm saying.

I'm also definitely not trying to be condescending so please don't take it that way.

I'm just saying is that Superbowl contenders usually see themselves as 1 or two players away.

A guy like Chase can do that for them like Emmanuel Sanders did.

A backup QB will not.
 
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Mac Jones would require an odd Aaron Rodgers fall and even if he did, the Saints would still have to trade up to snag him. If he's even half of what he was at Alabama in the pros, he's still worth it to a ton of teams needing a QB.
 

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Well, my opinion has as much value as yours, even when the tone may defer.
I come around here open minded, trying to learn and give something to think about to fellow posters.

It is just opinions, nobody around here can predict with certainty what will happen.
Don't worry about him. You make perfect sense...more sense than him actually. But he's entitled to his own outlook, just like you.
 

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Have been wrong before. Will be wrong again. But at the risk of repeating myself, I offer these comments, though with varying degrees of certainty:

1. San Francisco will pick a quarterback. I do not know which one. If I had to wager, I would say Fields, then Lance, then Jones, despite the media stories over the last 48 hours that Jones is the choice. I would not wager much on which quarterback San Francisco will pick, but I would wager a substantial amount that the choice will be a quarterback.

2. I wrote only a few days ago that there was a probability that Jones would be available at 28. I still have questions about Jones, in part because I wonder what his production and performance would have been like had he played not for Alabama, but for Ole Miss or North Carolina or Purdue; and in part because most quarterbacks with his level of athleticism do not make it--Brady was a lottery shot. However, in fairness, a high percentage of first-round quarterbacks picked in recent years do not make it. At this time, because of the media stories having him going as high as three, I would wager, albeit a small amount, that he will not be available at 28.

3. I would wager a large amount that Mac Jones is not a future Hall of Famer (though I won't be around 30 years from now to collect or pay). In fact, I would wager a small amount that no quarterback picked in 2021 will enter the Hall of Fame, and a larger amount that no quarterback not named Lawrence will enter the Hall of Fame.
 

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Do not rule out Saints taking Najee Harris. CB and QB (though this is unlikely given that top 5 might all go in the top 8-9 picks) are the priorities. If they cannot get the right corner or quarterback they could go in any direction, from a WR like Elijah Moore to backs like Harris and Etienne enter the conversation.
I was thinking that. The Harris pic I mean. That would be sooooo SP
 

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Don't worry about him. You make perfect sense...more sense than him actually. But he's entitled to his own outlook, just like you.

Except that you and no one else here can explain how a backup QB makes more sense than a starting skill player like Jamar Chase.

Even when the Saints were competing recently for a title they traded a 3rd for Bridgewater, not all the way up to the top 10.

And even when GB took Rodgers and Love they didn't trade at all and were at the back of round one.
 
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Except that you and no one else here can explain how a backup QB makes more sense than a starting skill player like Jamar Chase.

Even when the Saints were competing recently for a title they traded a 3rd for Bridgewater, not all the way up to the top 10.

And even when GB took Rodgers and Love they didn't trade at all and were at the back of round one.
Talk about an insult to Drew Brees. The Saints were looking for a backup. The 49ers are not. You don't want to believe this reality. That's fine. The Saints were looking for a backup for their future Hall of Fame franchise QB . The 49ers are looking for a franchise QB with a serviceable QB still on the roster. Yeah, he'll be a back up now the same way Patrick Mahomes was a back up, if they're lucky. But make no mistake, that's what the 49ers are hoping to accomplish, they want to draft the next Patrick Mahomes...not plan their future around their current QB. These scenarios are not the same.
 

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Talk about an insult to Drew Brees. The Saints were looking for a backup. The 49ers are not. You don't want to believe this reality. That's fine. The Saints were looking for a backup for their future Hall of Fame franchise QB . The 49ers are looking for a franchise QB with a serviceable QB still on the roster. Yeah, he'll be a back up now the same way Patrick Mahomes was a back up, if they're lucky. But make no mistake, that's what the 49ers are hoping to accomplish, they want to draft the next Patrick Mahomes...not plan their future around their current QB. These scenarios are not the same.
Bridgewater was a future starter for some team just like whomever the 9ers draft might be next year.

The point is that Shanahan purposely said himself that they will draft a guy who won't challenge Jimmy this year.

You're the one reading deeper into what is being said here, not me.
 

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Interesting tid bit. I honestly thought Lance would be last.

Some of the assistance Jones got from the offense shows up in this section, as well. Jones’ play-action / RPO rate of 53.03% is astronomically high. Even if we assume the NFL’s play-action / RPO rate is increasing, over 50% is not a realistic number in the pros. From 2019 and on, the only other QBs to clear the 45%-plus mark in this area are Drew Lock, Kyler Murray, and Tua Tagovailoa. That’s not the worst company, honestly, but it’s still worth recognizing much of Jones’ production came easier than other QBs, which is especially concerning when Jones does not have the playmaking element those other QBs had/have.
 

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Bridgewater was a future starter for some team just like whomever the 9ers draft might be next year.

The point is that Shanahan purposely said himself that they will draft a guy who won't challenge Jimmy this year.

You're the one reading deeper into what is being said here, not me.
Bridgewater being a future starter for "some team" was not the point you were making when you brought him up in that false equivalency. At any rate, I see where this is going...I'm good.
 

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