Sean Payton's game plan ? (1 Viewer)

[Ole Saint]

How do u figure that when the run was getting shutdown? There was no guarantee we'd get another 1st down if we'd stuck with the run

Who cares about a first down? We just needed the clock to run at that point in the game...we were already in easy field goal range...run the ball, kick a field goal, make them use their timeouts, and kick the ball to them with 50 seconds left and no timeouts...that would have totally eliminated all the 10-12 shots they took over the middle...

 

[RJ in Lafayette]

The problem was not the coaching. On a neutral field, the Rams are a better team. The injuries in the offensive line materially affected our offense. And with the lack of talent at tight end and wide receiver, our offense was built on a dominant offensive line. The offense was nowhere close to our offense two months ago, much less our offense in 2009 and 2011.

The great irony is that this team's weakness in January was passing offense. And Brees is no longer good enough to carry s team. He was the fourth best quarterback this weekend. He was certainly good enough to win a Super Bowl with. But you now have to give him weapons.

 

[RKNSaint]

The problem was not the coaching. On a neutral field, the Rams are a better team. The injuries in the offensive line materially affected our offense. And with the lack of talent at tight end and wide receiver, our offense was built on a dominant offensive line. The offense was nowhere close to our offense two months ago, much less our offense in 2009 and 2011.

The great irony is that this team's weakness in January was passing offense. And Brees is no longer good enough to carry s team. He was the fourth best quarterback this weekend. He was certainly good enough to win a Super Bowl with. But you now have to give him weapons.

There were breakdowns in Coaching, Defense, Offense and ST's. There were also good moments on Defense and Offense. The continuity wasn't there to overcome some of the mis-steps. We looked fluid on Offense (Open to 2nd half) but then lose it down the stretch. Was that coaching? Players? Not sure I give the Ram's the credit for all of it. In the end we were just good enough to be in a position to win at the end until the Ref's took it it away. We were making the plays, albeit barely. Again, not good enough to overcome even the slightest mis-step or blow refer call. In OT we still had a chance to win it but blundered that as well. A game of missed opportunities that falls on coaching and the players -- and yes the refs (going all the way back to helmet to helmet hits in the first qtr). We were just off the last month of football. I don't know why. Not buying the 4th best comment on Drew. Worse than Goff? Hardly. Worse than Mahomes? Mahomes rifle arm and scrambling wizardry put him in rare air. Out of the 4 QB's if you have one game to play I say TB, DB, PM would be a toss up for me. Next year...always next year.

 

[ThrowbackSaintXXL]

Who cares about a first down? We just needed the clock to run at that point in the game...we were already in easy field goal range...run the ball, kick a field goal, make them use their timeouts, and kick the ball to them with 50 seconds left and no timeouts...that would have totally eliminated all the 10-12 shots they took over the middle...

Getting the 1st down would've insured us the chance to run down the clock

 

[blackadder]

Sean has some responsibility in this game's outcome. You don't put Taysom in on 1st and 10 to begin with. We are on a critical drive and he starts "playing" with his toy. Irresponsible! Then you run the freaking ball with less that two minutes and a first down inside the 15 yard line. Period! No excuses, just plain stupid play calling. Now is Sean Payton a horrible coach, absolutely not, but he out-coached himself in this game at times and it cost his team a Super Bowl. The blown call by the refs just finished off what Sean Payton's play calling in that critical situation could not do in and of itself.

He outcoaches himself on a cycle. Don’t know when it’s going to happen but it always does a few times a season. Take the good with the bad.

It was part of the story with this game. But for the missed call it would have been overcome.

 

[blackadder]

The problem was not the coaching. On a neutral field, the Rams are a better team. The injuries in the offensive line materially affected our offense. And with the lack of talent at tight end and wide receiver, our offense was built on a dominant offensive line. The offense was nowhere close to our offense two months ago, much less our offense in 2009 and 2011.

The great irony is that this team's weakness in January was passing offense. And Brees is no longer good enough to carry s team. He was the fourth best quarterback this weekend. He was certainly good enough to win a Super Bowl with. But you now have to give him weapons.

Can’t really argue with this.

Looking at the trend line since Dallas for the offense the question is does this carry over into next season and is it the new normal?

Does Brees settle in to this more physically limited version of himself for another season, or does Father Time take him still another notch down next year?

Is that enough to keep defenses honest?

Definitely need depth on OL, a better TE option and some more WR talent and have to find it with few draft picks and limited cap.

This year was the best shot. Injuries became a factor but not as devastating as some years. Who knows next year?

If this offense is the new normal we have to look more like the Bears of Ravens and not sure the defense is stocked to be that dominant to carry the team.

 

[triumph]

The only coaching issue that I saw offensively was that it seemed that we were very slow getting the play calls in and getting out of the huddle. I know everything isnt going to be perfect and some timeouts could be called, but too many times we wouldnt get aligned until only a couple of seconds were left on the play clock.

 

[SweetT]

Really you think his game plan was fine ??? Come on man, seriously , we got out coached by a younger more aggressive coach, when the Ram's coach faked that kick and got 1st down we never recovered !

Yes, I do. Thomas didn’t play possessed like the week before. Ginn seemed like he didn’t care until his big catch, TQS was still in his invisible mode, Kamara had some good gains, but opted to go out of bounds a handful of times-should’ve squared those shoulders and got extra yards. Ingram a few times didn’t truck defenders when he had the opportunity. Arnold completely looked shook out there. Even Drew made some key errors. When you get to a Championship game and the refs let the game get physical, then you need to send a message that you will not be punked period. If a defender is mugging you, then push off. If you have the opportunity to get two extra yards, then run over someone.

 

[RJ in Lafayette]

Going forward, the defense can be very good, though not dominant--top 10, though not top 5. The Rankin's injury is a concern.

The offense needs weapons. It is critical that the team upgrade dramatically the tight end position and add another quality wide receiver. I seem to have more concerns about Brees' physical limitations than others. But regardless of who is playing quarterback, our receivers and tight ends are not good enough, and the organization failed to successfully address those positions in the last off-season. Watson was too old. Meredith was too great a medical risk. Our passing offense was not good enough at the end of this season.

 

[SaintNick]

Game plan results in a “W” if they get that PI call. They take knees and get the easy FG.

Even after the non-call, the Saints had the ball in OT with a chance to win the game. I completely understand the frustration with that pathetic non-call but a true champion finds a way to win the game in spite of the refs.

 

[JRead2]

The Game was ours till the Rams' coach went for it on the fake kick.. Am I wrong ???

Wrong! The game was ours until that flag didn't get thrown.

 

[26ISTHEMAN]

Sounds like some of you want perfection. Well guess what, this is not gymnastics, so you're not gonna get it. We led wire to wire, except for a brief time when the game was tied. But for a drop here and several blatant non-calls there, we win by 10-14 points.

 

[dtc]

The Ram's coach was more aggressive Period ! The game tuned completely in their favor after the fake kick and they got 1st down ! Were you not watching the game ! Payton got outcoached !

Outcoached? We won the game.

If anything, Payton was too aggressive with his Taysom Hill calls, but you're just being butthurt.