SF Final Defensive Scheme (1 Viewer)

jasonsw

VIP Subscribing Member
VIP Contributor
Joined
Jul 2, 2019
Messages
9,773
Reaction score
21,172
Age
42
Location
Bastrop
Offline
And, yet... DA still hung MW out to dry!

(Pathetic scheme as to what they were supposed to do!)
There should of been someone or 2 protecting the end zone. It seems that they were trying to prevent a completion, instead of a score. Who cares about the completion. Only way Diggs could of scored was during that scenario that happened in the Minny Fluke
 
Joined
Jan 7, 2014
Messages
401
Reaction score
485
Offline
Did anyone notice the last SF defensive scheme? 3 LBs and 8 DBs.
Does anyone remember the Saints defensive scheme for the Minn Miracle:
4 DL, 1 LB and 6 DBs.
Interesting
Different scenarios. MN only needed a FG to beat us in 2017.

However, the biggest head scratcher with the Saints defensive scheme on the final play was that we had Craig Robertson drop into the middle of the field and guard no one. MN was out of timeouts and would not have had enough time to complete a pass in the middle of the field and get in FG range. We should have baited Keenum into throwing the ball to the middle of the field by putting someone 30 or so yards back from the line of scrimmage and then dropping that person maybe 5 yards back even further. Instead, Robertson is fairly close to the line of scrimmage and drops back into a zone where there are no pass catching threats. We in effect wasted a defender.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jan 7, 2014
Messages
401
Reaction score
485
Offline
There should of been someone or 2 protecting the end zone. It seems that they were trying to prevent a completion, instead of a score. Who cares about the completion. Only way Diggs could of scored was during that scenario that happened in the Minny Fluke
MN only needed a FG to win. Completely different scenario.
 

Domeination

SR is my life!
VIP Contributor
Joined
Aug 16, 2002
Messages
15,080
Reaction score
14,280
Age
57
Location
Nacogdoches, TX
Offline
The local sports media said the problem wasn't the formation. I thought at the time it was dumb to use 4 DL. Demeco will be a HC one day with, dare I say, more success than DA.
 

RaginCajun83

Saints/Wrestling Fanatic
VIP Contributor
Joined
Apr 1, 2004
Messages
17,353
Reaction score
11,590
Age
43
Location
Houston, TX
Online
The local sports media said the problem wasn't the formation. I thought at the time it was dumb to use 4 DL. Demeco will be a HC one day with, dare I say, more success than DA.
Im thinking he’s the next Texans coach
 
OP
OP
Joined
Jul 3, 2019
Messages
2,782
Reaction score
3,984
Age
69
Location
Grand Rapids, MI Grew up in New Orleans
Offline
Different scenarios. MN only needed a FG to beat us in 2017.

However, the biggest head scratcher with the Saints defensive scheme on the final play was that we had Craig Robertson drop into the middle of the field and guard no one. MN was out of timeouts and would not have had enough time to complete a pass in the middle of the field and get in FG range. We should have baited Keenum to throw the ball to the middle of the field by putting someone 30 or so yards back from the line of scrimmage and then dropping that person maybe 5 yards back even further. Instead, Robertson is fairly close to the line of scrimmage and drops back into a zone where there are no pass catching threats. We in effect wasted a defender.
They had no timeouts and no ability to set up the FG without getting out of bounds. No reason not to have 8 DBs in the game.
 

SaintsFan11

Semper annus alter erit.
Joined
Jul 8, 2001
Messages
9,307
Reaction score
2,894
Location
Lafayette, Louisiana
Offline
They had no timeouts and no ability to set up the FG without getting out of bounds. No reason not to have 8 DBs in the game.
Hindsight is 20/20, but Marcus Williams whiffing like that was not foreseeable. It’s not like Diggs was wide open. Except for one of the most inexplicable missed tackles in history, game over.

In other words, not sure the play call was the problem.
 
Joined
Jan 7, 2014
Messages
401
Reaction score
485
Offline
Hindsight is 20/20, but Marcus Williams whiffing like that was not foreseeable. It’s not like Diggs was wide open. Except for one of the most inexplicable missed tackles in history, game over.

In other words, not sure the play call was the problem.
Definitely a fair argument- All Williams had to do was go to the sideline and tackle Diggs towards the inside.
 

Saintslfc13

ALL-MADDEN TEAM
Joined
Apr 7, 2004
Messages
4,256
Reaction score
4,083
Age
33
Offline
Hindsight is 20/20, but Marcus Williams whiffing like that was not foreseeable. It’s not like Diggs was wide open. Except for one of the most inexplicable missed tackles in history, game over.

In other words, not sure the play call was the problem.
Exactly. I understand the main purpose of re-litigating the Minny Miracle is for some to take yet another shot at DA, and therefore reality doesn't fit the current narrative, but if Marcus Williams makes a routine tackle the game is over. He was in position to make the play, he just didn't make it. That's not on DA, that's on the player. That's not a shot at MW either the guy ended up being a very good player for us, albeit with tackling issues at times but with him that was the trade off. He'd fly across the field to break up a pass, grab a pick, or make a TD saving tackle but sometimes he'd whiff on the play completely.
 

Westbank4Life

Hall-of-Famer
Joined
Jan 25, 2008
Messages
4,148
Reaction score
4,736
Location
Orlando,Florida
Offline
And, yet... DA still hung MW out to dry!

(Pathetic scheme as to what they were supposed to do!)
Deuce spoke about this a week or so ago with Mike Hoss ..was a friday when they were going over play calls.

he sighed about this one...said yeah saints were supposed to be in picket defense where they force the throw to the INSIDE and protect the boundary and goal line

very interesting as to why they did the complete opposite

Saints were up by 1, minn ball at 25 with :25 seconds left ....Minn used their final timeouts. after they got to their 38 with :14 seconds left NO take time out.

had they simply ran the picket defense here force to middle you are talking anywhere from 8-12 seconds running off that clock...the deeper the throw the more time off that clock...even if it was a 20 yard completion up the middle ..they would be at saints 42 with the clock burning to try to attempt a rushed 57 yard FG attempt at worst.

instead 61 yard TD....man
 

BayouSAINTJoe

IFYA SEEN A LEPRECHAUN SAY YEAH!!!
Joined
Sep 26, 2019
Messages
6,976
Reaction score
20,326
Age
41
Location
The Dirty Dell
Online
Exactly. I understand the main purpose of re-litigating the Minny Miracle is for some to take yet another shot at DA, and therefore reality doesn't fit the current narrative, but if Marcus Williams makes a routine tackle the game is over. He was in position to make the play, he just didn't make it. That's not on DA, that's on the player. That's not a shot at MW either the guy ended up being a very good player for us, albeit with tackling issues at times but with him that was the trade off. He'd fly across the field to break up a pass, grab a pick, or make a TD saving tackle but sometimes he'd whiff on the play completely.
MW makes the tackle = DPI and a GW FG attempt.

We actually tried to blow the Carolina game the week before with a botched coverage in the EZ on the last play...we lucked out with dude dropping the ball.
 

Create an account or login to comment

You must be a member in order to leave a comment

Create account

Create an account on our community. It's easy!

Log in

Already have an account? Log in here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Top Bottom