Shooter incident at elementary school in Uvalde, Texas - 19 children and 2 adults dead (2 Viewers)

And looking at the pictures of those children…looks like I’m going back out to the car again.

There will come a time to do more than cry. Gun rights my ******-******* ***.

I hear you. I'm currently home sick with covid. I missed my kid's Baccalaureate last night and the live stream failed. I'll miss her graduation tomorrow, but that's nothing compared to what these parents are going to miss.

I'm tired of it. I've been on and on on this board about how easy this problem would be to fix with simple steps that infringe on noone's rights, but I think it's just never going to happen and I'm sick about it.

I remember the day when Sandy Hook went down. I was at her elementary school doing a fund raising dinner. Looking at the little faces of the kids it was hard to imagine what it would take to cause someone to do what these people do.

This country needs:

universal background checks

every gun registered and an annual or biannual certification of possession by owners

Civil and criminal penalties for unlawful transfer

Civil and criminal penalties for failure to report a missing weapon

And end to the sale of high capacity magazines and/or assault weapons.



I have as many guns as probably anyone. I don't really hunt and I don't really need them, but they're mine and nobody is going to take them. There's no need to take them. What there is a need for is responsible regulation that prevents the spread of weapons into the hands of those who should not have them.
 
If they can keep weapons out of our airplanes, they can keep them out of schools, too. They won’t, though. Too expensive, amirite.
It’s crazy that one person *unsuccessfully* tried to have a bomb in their shoes brought onto a plane and that quickly led to *everyone* having to change their procedures for boarding planes by removing their shoes to be xrayed before getting anywhere near a plane… yet hundreds of kids killed over the years in school shootings has led to absolutely no positive changes at all.
 
It’s crazy that one person *unsuccessfully* tried to have a bomb in their shoes brought onto a plane and that quickly led to *everyone* having to change their procedures for boarding planes by removing their shoes to be xrayed before getting anywhere near a plane… yet hundreds of kids killed over the years in school shootings has led to absolutely no positive changes at all.
Planes cost a lot of money
 
Wow...he didn't wait around to put those guns to use. Terrible. Kid buys 2 guns and ammo within a couple of days. I thought there was a waiting period? Or is that a state to state thing?
Not to make light but the Simpsons covered it, kinda

 
The story that really got me was about the 10 yr old pictured in her softball uniform. Her grandfather told a reporter that she had repeatedly told them she did not want to go to school that day. I know kids do that all the time, but they made her go.

I do not know how I could carry on if that was me. I have a 4 and 9 year old grandsons.
 
Apparently there is a a NRA convention in Texas this week too. Man this is sick.


The NRA did the same thing in Colorado after Columbine. The way things are these days, I don't see how this convention doesn't happen in TX and how Abbott doesn't attend.

And look... I really, really try to not bring in politics to this site... I even report meme posts in BTL, but the reality is, there is no possible way to have a discussion about this issue without politics, because like it or not, it is politics, not the guns, that have gotten us where we are.

People point to the proliferation of guns as the cause of these shootings, especially the AR-15 types, yet, ignore the cause for the proliferation of guns. And it is not the 2nd Amendment; it is the people who have made a religion out of the 2nd Amendment, who keep getting voted into office by those "responsible gun owners", who continue to pay lip service to "tighter regulations" but will not vote in the people who will effect the change, instead, choosing to vote for the yahoo blowing things up with a high power rifle in the ads they approve.

It's the voters who continue to vote into office people who openly threaten with violence in the name of the 2nd Amendment.

It is all those "pro-lifers" who'll gladly send a woman to jail for destroying a fertilized egg, but offer nothing but thoughts and prayers to the families of the children gunned down inside their schools. Maybe they should offer thoughts and prayers for the zygotes too and forego enacting laws that punish women?

It is all of those crying "mental health", who yet dismiss the biggest mental issues: the worship of guns, the worship of everything military, the idea that owning guns and preparing for the "zombie apocalypse" (code speak for the government coming from your guns) makes one a "patriot".

And one last thing, after seeing the tweet listing the instances in which an AR-15 clone was used: don't fall for the AR-15 hype. One can do as much damage, if not more, with other rifle types, or even handguns, lest we forget the Virginia Tech shooter, who used two pistols (32 dead, 17 wounded).

So, until the next school shooting...
 
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Besides, would a school shooter really stop at the metal detector?
There are a few simple solutions that can make a big difference.

My youngest is in a small grammar school in my residential neighborhood. Only about 300 kids in all grades combined. Small school, small budget.

During school, all possible entrances to campus are locked. The only way in or out is the door by the front office, and even then you have to ring a bell and be buzzed in by the office. If they don't recognize you and are not expecting you, you don't get buzzed in. Even if you are picking up your kids in after-care, you don't get inside. You ring the bell, and a worker escorts the kid to the office door to you. NO ONE gets inside unless they belong there. Even the parents that are known to the office staff don't get in.

It is not as expensive as metal detectors and armed guards, but I am confident that the office staff would not buzz in an armed assailant. They did have to add some fencing to close some gaps between buildings, but that is minimal cost. I'm sure if any school was having trouble paying for such upgrades they could easily get parents to donate to the cause and they would easily get more help than was needed.
 

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