Slave or Enslaved Person? (1 Viewer)

[Madmarsha]

there are far too many bad examples of this to think this is still a good idea - whether it is what or how

Wow. It's NOT a parents' job to teach their children WHAT or HOW to think? Is that REALLY what you are saying? Or, you know, only if their beliefs aren't in line with YOURS?

Sure, I get there are bad examples. Please don't come back and tell me what. Because I know what you're implying.

I didn't include the first part of your reply because I found it, frankly, insulting. I didn't ask for your Liberal word usage lesson. Sometimes, you know, I know HOW to think for myself. Or is there only one belief in your world?

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Wow. It's NOT a parents' job to teach their children WHAT or HOW to think? Is that REALLY what you are saying? Or, you know, only if their beliefs aren't in line with YOURS?

Sure, I get there are bad examples. Please don't come back and tell me what. Because I know what you're implying.

did your parents teach you how to use caps locks?

 

[SystemShock]

in the common american usage, the term 'slave' was used (and justified) because of the strongly held belief that africans were of lesser stock than white people - it was literally used to describe people as sub-human

Umm... nah...

the use of "enslaved persons" is meant to indicate dignity to humans who were enslaved

How does "enslaved person" indicate dignity?

 

[Goatman Saint]

Pretty soon they will simply be called an unpaid workforce

 

[Madmarsha]

did your parents teach you how to use caps locks?

Hold on. I'll work up a lesson for you on the capitalization of first words of sentences.

 

[SystemShock]

I get it. Slave implies that, right or wrong, they were in fact property. While enslaved implies victim and throws the attention back on the person doing the enslaving. It also does not imply any acceptance of the condition By the enslaved. It’s also easier to roll with this kind of thing. Times change and when we no longer accept it, it’s a good sign that it has passed us by.

at the same time, this is small picture inside the much bigger picture. Over emphasis by either side is not likely to be productive and will go the stalemate route of all things politicized

How does "slave" not imply victim, when the very definition of slavery says it is the condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control?

 

[zeetes]

Hold on. I'll work up a lesson for you on the capitalization of first words of sentences.

capitalisation is overrated as is punctuation i do like run on sentences

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Umm... nah...

just to say it for funsies, let's point out that your penchant for blithely dismissing arguments with a pithy negation is not, in and of itself, an argument

How does "enslaved person" indicate dignity?

the 'person' part

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Hold on. I'll work up a lesson for you on the capitalization of first words of sentences.

i'll have to ask my mom if it's ok

 

[Madmarsha]

Did everyone notice that lost in all these arguments over which is the "right" word and which is the "wrong" word is that we aren't learning any actual history?

 

[Madmarsha]

capitalisation is overrated as is punctuation i do like run on sentences

You are a slave to being unique, zeetes.

 

[Zack Lee]

How does "slave" not imply victim, when the very definition of slavery says it is the condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control?

when it was legal they used the term as if it was a given that they were in fact nothing more than property. For you maybe it does imply victim. But I think if more people had to go enslave someone instead of just picking up a slave at the market, it may have given pause to a few.

 

[Madmarsha]

i'll have to ask my mom if it's ok

I think you're over the age of majority. You can decide for yourself if it's okay.

 

[SystemShock]

when it was legal they used the term as if it was a given that they were in fact nothing more than property. For you maybe it does imply victim. But I think if more people had to go enslave someone instead of just picking up a slave at the market, it may have given pause to a few.

That doesn't answer my question. How does substituting "slave" with "enslaved person" give dignity to the person in a condition of slavery?

 

[Zack Lee]

That doesn't answer my question. How does substituting "slave" with "enslaved person" give dignity to the person in a condition of slavery?

you are looking for dignity? Perhaps that is asking too much. I am talking about implied property vs implied taken against will. One sounds more involuntary to me.