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Went to high school with him and officiated high school sports with him

I ran into him Saturday. I assume it was his week off

I asked him to explain the call and what happened during the NFCCG

I have never seen him so animated and defensive. He started by saying that it was a bang bang play. I interrupted trying to say it was not and he got angry. Started sputtering about speaking to Rotart clubs and other groups about this. Made no sense at all. Then he started saying you don’t know how fast things are on the field. And then wanted to blame the NFL and how they are graded. I’ve never seen him like this. He refused to let me talk. Kept saying I needed to listen. I wound up walking away

His whole demeanor was defensive and almost confrontational. Sounded so defensive and rehearsed. I walked away thinking either the league has given them the talking points or the league officials have closed ranks
 

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...making use of...ever expanding technology...
Technology left the game way behind, other than "improved" helmets, "skycam", and tablet computers for bench study.

During the Clemson game last night, a player ran down the sideline and stepped where the paint should've been on the grass but wasn't. Camera view showed the ostensible OB, but shoe never touched white paint. Absurd.

Lasers on sidelines and goal lines eliminates the issue. The real problem is NFL trying to be anachronistic in Y100. Chain gang. Pylon cam. SMH
 

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I know a man who has reffed high school football for decades. His response re: NFCCG was this. He said if you ref long enough, you will choke on a pass interference call eventually. He said the thing that bothered him the most was the refs missing helmet to helmet, which he said is emphasized to refs at every level every week. He also said he hated that the NFL does all-star crews for playoffs. He said if you have refs who have worked together for a long time, they're more likely to talk about calls and communicate, etc. because they're comfortable with each other.

He clearly had more sympathy for the refs than most, but I felt he gave a reasonable answer.
 

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It is technically accurate to say the pass interference in the championship game was a bang-bang play. But that description is grossly misleading because the pass interference was so blatant and indeed intentional. And most calls by officials involve bang-bang plays.

The league this morning is taking a beating over its officiating. And I suspect Park Avenue is not happy. The blunder yesterday by Walt Anderson was horrible judgment--it was something fundamental, he knows better, and he is supposed to be one of the best.

And of course the time issue in the Houston game was arguably the worst because apparently nobody on the entire officiating crew rule knew the rules.
 

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It is technically accurate to say the pass interference in the championship game was a bang-bang play. But that description is grossly misleading because the pass interference was so blatant and indeed intentional. And most calls by officials involve bang-bang plays.

The league this morning is taking a beating over its officiating. And I suspect Park Avenue is not happy. The blunder yesterday by Walt Anderson was horrible judgment--it was something fundamental, he knows better, and he is supposed to be one of the best.

And of course the time issue in the Houston game was arguably the worst because apparently nobody on the entire officiating crew rule knew the rules.
That's what gets me.

This is three (real) games in a row now.
NFCCG: The entire fourth quarter was a comedy of errors with blown calls, missed calls and phantom calls. THE call wasn't just one, but two egregious, hilariously bad calls at once. Missed PI, missed helmet-to-helmet.

Then, somehow, it gets worse.
Texans-time: Look fellas, you're the damn refs. If you're not enforcing the rules of NFL football, what the hell are we even doing here?
Rams: Same thing. This isn't a missed holding call or a bad spot, this is refusing to follow your own damn rules. If it's close, you let the play finish, then sort it out in replay.

It's like going to court and the judge says "Murder's not a crime, case dismissed."
Only there's no appeal.
 

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The league this morning is taking a beating over its officiating.
How are they taking a beating, you arent going to stop sending money their way, and I doubt they care about the "whiny" criticism of Saints fans who talk a big game Monday, but cant stay away on Sunday. Nor do I think they are trifled by the media that will blast them today and have their back tomorrow.
 

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The speed of the game has nothing to do with what happened today. Mike Pereira said the league instructs it’s officials to not blow the whistle in situations like today, and Walt Anderson blew the whistle anyway. He’s either incompetent or crooked, and since the league will not hold him accountable, there is no fixing what is obviously broken. It’s clear the league doesn’t think officiating is a problem.
In no way am I pointing at you. I'm just playing off your crooked comment.

When Coach Pete said within hours after the NFCCG blown call that the NFL was freaked out and trying to cover up every avenue until it figured how a number of the officials got bought for that game's outcome, then the next day, Coach Pete told me to take that thread down immediately, and he never would speak about it again, knowing Pete, it made me think that games, not just the Saints games, were being fixed. It's pretty clear that a number of officials have been bought or they should be coaching tag football for pre K-12 kids. What if certain players are being bought also. The NFL would want all this covered up. It would completely collapse the NFL overnight.

I am not saying its fixed, but billions are being bet every weekend. Games used to be fixed 2 decades ago. I know that factually, 100% factually. Are certain games being bought? You all saw that stadium. It was half empty. The developers of the new stadium complex are spending multiple billions to buy land and develop that complex. They need a successful team in LA. Would it be inconceivable that the developers are buying a few refs and/or players to enhance the value of their multi-billion dollar investment?

My granddad used to say, 'When big money deals look crazy, just follow the money and you will find the answer!"
 

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The speed of the game has nothing to do with what happened today. Mike Pereira said the league instructs it’s officials to not blow the whistle in situations like today, and Walt Anderson blew the whistle anyway. He’s either incompetent or crooked, and since the league will not hold him accountable, there is no fixing what is obviously broken. It’s clear the league doesn’t think officiating is a problem.
Exactly. It was only after it was clear that Cam had the ball and was running freely down field that they started blowing the whistle. They didn't blow it right away like they are supposed to. "oh New Orleans got it? and might score? kill it."
 

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I don't know that it would collapse the NFL overnight. Serie A (Italy's major soccer league) and the NBA survived corruption scandals with refs.

That said, when people dismiss complaints as conspiracy theories, I tell them that international soccer and NBA basketball have both had documented cases of this happening in recent years.

With players, one can look in New Orleans' own sporting history to the implosion of Tulane's basketball program in the 80s when it came out players were being paid off.

In no way am I pointing at you. I'm just playing off your crooked comment.

When Coach Pete said within hours after the NFCCG blown call that the NFL was freaked out and trying to cover up every avenue until it figured how a number of the officials got bought for that game's outcome, then the next day, Coach Pete told me to take that thread down immediately, and he never would speak about it again, knowing Pete, it made me think that games, not just the Saints games, were being fixed. It's pretty clear that a number of officials have been bought or they should be coaching tag football for pre K-12 kids. What if certain players are being bought also. The NFL would want all this covered up. It would completely collapse the NFL overnight.

I am not saying its fixed, but billions are being bet every weekend. Games used to be fixed 2 decades ago. I know that factually, 100% factually. Are certain games being bought? You all saw that stadium. It was half empty. The developers of the new stadium complex are spending multiple billions to buy land and develop that complex. They need a successful team in LA. Would it be inconceivable that the developers are buying a few refs and/or players to enhance the value of their multi-billion dollar investment?

My granddad used to say, 'When big money deals look crazy, just follow the money and you will find the answer!"
 

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I don't know that it would collapse the NFL overnight. Serie A (Italy's major soccer league) and the NBA survived corruption scandals with refs.

That said, when people dismiss complaints as conspiracy theories, I tell them that international soccer and NBA basketball have both had documented cases of this happening in recent years.

With players, one can look in New Orleans' own sporting history to the implosion of Tulane's basketball program in the 80s when it came out players were being paid off.
“Yea but that’s New Orleans sports history”. Easy excuse for the trash.
 

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How are they taking a beating, you arent going to stop sending money their way, and I doubt they care about the "whiny" criticism of Saints fans who talk a big game Monday, but cant stay away on Sunday. Nor do I think they are trifled by the media that will blast them today and have their back tomorrow.
I don’t know if there will be repercussions for the NFL at any time but I do think there’s more concern and backlash now, than at any other time I can remember. Prompted by player health issues, skyrocketing public funding obligations, social issues and unrest, and quality of officiating and greater awareness on controversial outcomes in a saturated media age.

Many of us who have invested years and passion into a team might find it difficult to walk away, but who knows what toll this might have on cultivating future generations of fans. It might not at all, but there are some real issues that could eventually be problematic for the league if they don’t soon find the leadership to actually embark on sustainable remedies.
 

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