Stranger Things season 4 discussion (1 Viewer)

[guidomerkinsrules]

I also have a prediction about the second part to 4.

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It's my guess that MKUltra was a leaked cover story over what really happened and that's the scientists never gave anyone powers, the kids already had powers and aren't clones or anything like that. The whole LSD to create powers is a cover story and 1-11 or however many there were is just the order they found them.

Maybe
What would that do? Not seeing how that moves the needle much

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

So I have a new question. I just finished re-watching the first 3 seasons and I don't understand how the end to 3 worked. So the Mind Flayer that left Will in season 2 survived the gate being closed. Well then why did the gate closing in 3 kill him?

It’s funny I’m actually watching s3/e8 right now
The Russians opening a portal allowed it to get through telepathically to the piece that was in will- that infected the rats which infected the people

 

[EGLSShin]

All I need now in stranger things is them to drop songs from SANDRA from 1985.

 

[nolaspe]

Heard this cover yesterday on Sirius Octane, not too bad...

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

It’s funny I’m actually watching s3/e8 right now
The Russians opening a portal allowed it to get through telepathically to the piece that was in will- that infected the rats which infected the people

I'm not asking about that part. I'm asking why does the gate closing kill it when it escaped out of Will in season 2 and the gate closing didn't kill it, it was able to live by going into rats and such. I also don't think that the gate closing affects the demo dogs in the upside down and that's how one is with the Russians, it came through the gate afterwards.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I'm not asking about that part. I'm asking why does the gate closing kill it when it escaped out of Will in season 2 and the gate closing didn't kill it, it was able to live by going into rats and such. I also don't think that the gate closing affects the demo dogs in the upside down and that's how one is with the Russians, it came through the gate afterwards.

Not sure I’m completely understanding- I don’t think the closing of the gate ‘killed’ the MF it just banished it to the upside down - and that cut off the telepathic link to the part that was in Will
When the Russians opened the door that reestablished the link

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

Not sure I’m completely understanding- I don’t think the closing of the gate ‘killed’ the MF it just banished it to the upside down - and that cut off the telepathic link to the part that was in Will
When the Russians opened the door that reestablished the link

They said that closing the gate would kill it but the thing that left Will survived the gate closing. So why would another gate closing have any affect on it?

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

They said that closing the gate would kill it but the thing that left Will survived the gate closing. So why would another gate closing have any affect on it?

I would imagine bc it’s ‘power source’ is in the upside down

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

I would imagine bc it’s ‘power source’ is in the upside down

But it survived the 1st time so why would the 2nd one be any different?

 

[SaintsFanInLA]

I didn't enjoy this season as much as the others. It seems to have gotten away from the nostalgia that made it magical. STILL a good series and overall I enjoyed it. But I felt myself tuning out, like a LOT. It was also darker to me. I still like the series but haven't enjoyed this season nearly as much as the others.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I didn't enjoy this season as much as the others. It seems to have gotten away from the nostalgia that made it magical. STILL a good series and overall I enjoyed it. But I felt myself tuning out, like a LOT. It was also darker to me. I still like the series but haven't enjoyed this season nearly as much as the others.

Yeah it’s kind of a reverse Harry Potter - the early years of Potter were a bit Chris Columbus so the change to the teen/darker storylines was welcome
otoh
seasons 1&3 were so perfect at capturing preadolescent angst, mystery, whimsy that transitioning into actual adolescence was going to be a challenge- and I think it’s a challenge bc us viewers might have a bit more of an ambiguous relationship to our teen years than our pre-teen (it’s one thing for a 12 yr old to believe in monsters and another for a 15 yr old to do so)
And I think that’s why they’re setting up 11 as the final boss
And why I wonder if there won’t be a major time jump for s5

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

Yeah it’s kind of a reverse Harry Potter - the early years of Potter were a bit Chris Columbus so the change to the teen/darker storylines was welcome
otoh
seasons 1&3 were so perfect at capturing preadolescent angst, mystery, whimsy that transitioning into actual adolescence was going to be a challenge- and I think it’s a challenge bc us viewers might have a bit more of an ambiguous relationship to our teen years than our pre-teen (it’s one thing for a 12 yr old to believe in monsters and another for a 15 yr old to do so)
And I think that’s why they’re setting up 11 as the final boss
And why I wonder if there won’t be a major time jump for s5

I don't know how big but there will be a time jump.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I don't know how big but there will be a time jump.

they lean heavy into the tropes - so the next biggest one would be HS reunion i would think

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

they lean heavy into the tropes - so the next biggest one would be HS reunion i would think

They also said that it would bring the characters closer in age to the actors.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

They also said that it would bring the characters closer in age to the actors.

So maybe a Cocoon homage?