SXSW Bully sucker punch. Justified or cheap? (1 Viewer)

[Paul]

Pffffttt.

Back in my day, we'd have a dance-off.

I used to windmill my *** to victory. :rock:

Young punks.

 

[El Caliente]

Honestly, I would recommend that you take a step back and look at what you've been writing. LSSpam laid it out pretty well I think, but you have not been very consistent in your comments. It actually is very confusing. You keep throwing out references to 12 Angry Men that don't make sense in this situation. Would juror 8 have been so gung-ho about "more backstory" if he was shown video footage of the kid stabbing his father?

We have this guy acting like a drunk fool, berating, bullying, hitting and picking fights with people who are trying to move away and clearly do not want to fight. If they called him a bad word (or whatever), it was over long before the video started rolling and they had backed down. Everything that happened after that was him being at fault. You have even said at least once that you agree with this, yet almost immediately go back to not wanting to accuse people (we don't know with what) without a backstory.

Several people have explained it better than me, but it's just not clear what you are looking for here. In your opinion, what could have happened right before the video started that would justify the guy's (the one who was knocked out) actions?

Fonda's caracter would have asked for the minuets previous to the start of filming to make up his mind. That was his thing. He didnt rush to judge before getting more details. He even went step by step to see how things would have had to play out. There is more to this story than some drunk looking for a fight.

Was the guy in the wrong? Based only on the video, yes. If we go deeper and find out the two guys had been messing with him? No.

I am not looking to pick a fight with anyone here, just looking for some dialog.

And with that said, I am done with this thread. Nothing to gain here in way of understanding.

 

[Loco Hornet Fan]

Fonda's caracter would have asked for the minuets previous to the start of filming to make up his mind. That was his thing. He didnt rush to judge before getting more details. He even went step by step to see how things would have had to play out. There is more to this story than some drunk looking for a fight.

Was the guy in the wrong? Based only on the video, yes. If we go deeper and find out the two guys had been messing with him? No.

I am not looking to pick a fight with anyone here, just looking for some dialog.

And with that said, I am done with this thread. Nothing to gain here in way of understanding.

If they were messing with him, it had been over for a long time while he was still dancing around, taunting and hitting people. It couldn't have been that bad because they clearly did not want to fight. The crowd certainly seemed to put the blame on the guy who got knocked out.

I'm not trying to pick a fight either. I just can't see how you can look at that video and think that just maybe this guy was provoked into dancing and taunting and hitting random members in the crowd (who were trying to calm things down). 12 Angry Men was a good movie, but it's not relevant in every situation.

 

[Loco Hornet Fan]

And it's still confusing how you agreed with LSSpam about how there was no justification for the guy's actions, and then two seconds later went on a rant about how people who think that way were behaving just like the bad jurors in 12 Angry Men.

 

[St.Ryan]

Y'all need to see this from El Caliente's point of view. He's essentially saying there's a chance that something occurred prior to the video that made the guy act like an asshat. Which is a noble way of looking at the situation I think. Its the type of person you would probably want on a jury.

The problem is many of us, including Galbreath34, have seen this way too many times in our lives. There's a 99.9999% chance that no one did anything to the guy to set him off. How do I know this? Because of the reactions of the crowd + having been outside of a bar too many times. He was being a bully and he got handled. He 'slapped' a guy who was a harmless metrosexual; that's all I needed to see.

I fully support him getting knocked out. I fully support him(the asshat) getting charged with assault. And I also fully support raising a fund so the suckerpuncher can take a year traveling the world.

 

[Get in the Carr]

A lot of you are going off topic or just have a different definition of a sucker punch. A lot of your examples obviously call for a beat down but overall blindsiding someone just isn't cool. I knew guys that would lay out people at parties who weren't looking or guys that bumped into them on bourbon. Those same guys backed down when people actually called them out into the street.

 

[Flipx99]

A lot of you are going off topic or just have a different definition of a sucker punch. A lot of your examples obviously call for a beat down but overall blindsiding someone just isn't cool. I knew guys that would lay out people at parties who weren't looking or guys that bumped into them on bourbon. Those same guys backed down when people actually called them out into the street.

Actually, it seems to me that you are getting off topic. This guy didn't blindside some random guy at a party, nor did he blindside someone who just bumped into him on crowded street.

 

[Get in the Carr]

Actually, it seems to me that you are getting off topic. This guy didn't blindside some random guy at a party, nor did he blindside someone who just bumped into him on crowded street.

Sigh