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More like animalistic. I don’t care what you religion is condoning this type of behavior is inhuman. I really don’t want ti insult anyone but if you feel this is ok then please explain it to me.More like an act of religion.
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More like animalistic. I don’t care what you religion is condoning this type of behavior is inhuman. I really don’t want ti insult anyone but if you feel this is ok then please explain it to me.More like an act of religion.
In the world we live in today you can take the simple text “run spot run” and find 5 different people who have 5 different interpretations of it. But when Jesus said “I am the way the truth and the and the life and no one comes to the father except through me” John 14:6 that was pretty straightforward.You may want to look into that agreement even among agnostic scholars as to who wrote it. So, no, you don't know who the writer was, and after the many translations and interpretations, considering how long ago it was allegedly written, I can say that you don't know what the writer's intentions were.
As for a Pope misusing the text, can you say for certain he misused the texts, or that he believed them as he read them and understood them? We have gone from believing the Bible a literal, 100% factual text, to a number of interpretations depending on scientific advances and cultural evolution. There is a reason why there are so many denominations out there.
As a corresponding statement to the some of the points made in this reply is that even most historians, Biblical scholars, theologians agree that Paul wrote or co-wrote half of the books in the New Testament, reportedly even a few Christian Aprocryphal Gospels the Council of Nicea argued strenuously against and agreed not to include them.Your point about a Pope misusing a text for his own agenda definitely is valid, especially considering the priests would not allow common people to read the texts for themselves in those days. Certainly, many words were used out of context to mean something they do not (not to mention words being made up completely).
However, you are incorrect in saying we don't know the writer's intention. All one has to do is read the entire chapter to understand his intention (better to read the entire letter, of course, which makes it even more obvious).
You also are incorrect entirely in saying we do not know who wrote the letter. Even antagonistic scholars agree that Ephesians was written by Paul (around AD 62). You have a better argument about the Gospels because there is barely any historical evidence to directly tie the traditional authors to those texts, but you have no defensible argument about Paul's letter because historian scholarship going all the way back to the late first century AD (and some of those documents were written by men who knew Paul personally) says he is the author.
There is no distinction. Your individual or cultural spirituality could very well be achieving something against other people. See crusades. Even today Jerusalem is considered a holy land, and people see it a righteous enterprise to take it over, give it to the Jews, and defend it from the Muslims, because prophesy.
As far as the crusades go, you have to realize that there was a war between two empires going on. An old Christian one versus an upstart Muslim one. The Holy Land also happened to be the gateway of the most important trade routes linking Europe and North Africa to Asia. It was more about $$$$ than prophecy.
Are you asking me if I think it is ok? No, don't.More like animalistic. I don’t care what you religion is condoning this type of behavior is inhuman. I really don’t want ti insult anyone but if you feel this is ok then please explain it to me.
In the world we live in today you can take the simple text “run spot run” and find 5 different people who have 5 different interpretations of it. But when Jesus said “I am the way the truth and the and the life and no one comes to the father except through me” John 14:6 that was pretty straightforward.
I can tell you that quite a few contemporary Roman Catholic cardinals, priests, laity almost universally hated, despised and totally objected to how Rodrigo Borgia(Pope Alexander II) usurped, made promises and then completely discarded them, openly fraternitized with a estranged Italian young noblewoman, hosted a wild, sacrilegious Bacchus-themed orgy inside the old St. Peter's Basilica and held old-pagan Roman themed festivals. You don't need to be a Masters student in Theology to instantly recognize just how sacrilegious, heretical and contrary to basic New Testament and Christ's teachings just these two acts the Borgia Pope committed. He was privately despised and even openly condemned for his sexual impropriety, lecherous morals and immoral/unethical decisions in running the Catholic Church.You may want to look into that agreement even among agnostic scholars as to who wrote it. So, no, you don't know who the writer was, and after the many translations and interpretations, considering how long ago it was allegedly written, I can say that you don't know what the writer's intentions were.
As for a Pope misusing the text, can you say for certain he misused the texts, or that he believed them as he read them and understood them? We have gone from believing the Bible a literal, 100% factual text, to a number of interpretations depending on scientific advances and cultural evolution. There is a reason why there are so many denominations out there.
I don't doubt there was money involved, but that was not the main motivator. Even today, it is clear what Jerusalem means to Christians. No Jerusalem in the hands of the Jews, no prophesy fulfilled.
During the Crusades, the Christians and the Jews weren’t on the same side.
During the Crusades, the Christians and the Jews weren’t on the same side.
I don't doubt there was money involved, but that was not the main motivator. Even today, it is clear what Jerusalem means to Christians. No Jerusalem in the hands of the Jews, no prophesy fulfilled.
Yeah, there was that the interesting bitter, irrevocable final schism between Western Roman Catholic Church and the-then Byzantine Eastern Orthodox Church located in Constantinople in 1054 which occurred over 40+ years before the beginning of the Crusades in 1095.Truth be told, not all Christians were an the same side either.
Yeah, there was that the interesting bitter, irrevocable final schism between Western Roman Catholic Church and the-then Byzantine Eastern Orthodox Church located in Constantinople in 1054 which occurred over 40+ years before the beginning of the Crusades in 1095.
No I wasn’t asking you if you thought it was ok. No one that is even remotely human would think that was ok and from reading your posts on here I would assume that you are at least human with maybe just a bit of questionable behavior at times.Are you asking me if I think it is ok? No, don't.
Another thing that is straight forward is that, when Jesus allegedly said that, he was in direct violation of the 2nd commandment: thou shalt have no other gods before me, which prompted to later develop concept of the holy trinity to get around that.
Who in the world is saying this is ok?!?More like animalistic. I don’t care what you religion is condoning this type of behavior is inhuman. I really don’t want ti insult anyone but if you feel this is ok then please explain it to me.