The Cleveland Browns conundrum: OBJ's dragging down of Baker Mayfield (1 Viewer)

[Optimistic Ozzy]

I'd pass on OBJ at this point.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

Thank God for their defense, because that offense and passing game was embarrassing last week versus the Vikings, a middle of the road defense.

Got to love the obligatory, "Well they are winning, what's the problem?".

Problem is this team doesn't stand a chance in the playoffs with the current situation.

Stats never won anyone anything...we lit up the scoreboard in 2011 and can't help but to notice that we only have 1 Lombardi. Never seen a trophy for best team stat sheet.

I posted their W-L because, well TBH, that's the only stat that matters.

Anyway, It's already been explained why the numbers are down since OBJ came back...Baker has an injury and they're running it more, likely to protect him. Couple that with stout Defense, I don't see a reason why they should stop...I mean, they're on a 3 game winning streak right now.

 

[ShortFuzed9]

Send then a 6th this year and next year's 5th

 

[SweetT]

I'd pass on OBJ at this point.

Have you seen the WRs that we are trotting out on Sundays?
I would trade damn near all of them for OBJ

 

[45TchoupSaint]

Have you seen the WRs that we are trotting out on Sundays?
I would trade damn near all of them for OBJ

Agreed and I don't even care about the diva-ness at this point. I'll go to the dark side just want production from our WRs:

 

[Saint Kamara]

At least it's finally over.

 

[Saint Kamara]

Agreed and I don't even care about the diva-ness at this point. I'll go to the dark side just want production from our WRs:

still want him?

 

[slikk]

Only people being negative about MT is fans and media. Saints organization and staff haven't said anything on issues and problems some of yall are on here spreading.

 

[Saint Kamara]

Only people being negative about MT is fans and media. Saints organization and staff haven't said anything on issues and problems some of yall are on here spreading.

wrong thread mijo

 

[slikk]

wrong thread mijo

My bad on my phone

 

[45TchoupSaint]

still want him?

Yep, even more so with MT out for the year.

 

[Saint Kamara]

Yep, even more so with MT out for the year.

I can respect that

 

[saintmike23]

Baker Mayfield is not very good. Those throws highlighted by his father were abysmal.

 

[Saint Kamara]

Statistically cannot be denied.

Baker Mayfield is a much better QB without OBJ on the field.

2018 (without OBJ)
93.7 QB Rating

2019 (with OBJ)
78.8 QB Rating

2020 (with OBJ)
84.3 QB Rating

2020 (without OBJ)
102.1 QB Rating

2021 (without OBJ)
101.9 QB Rating

2021 (with OBJ)
77.7 QB Rating

Overall (without OBJ - 28 games)
97 QB Rating

Overall (with OBJ - 24 games)
80 QB Rating

Baker 5-6 100 yards 1 TD, perfect QB Rating

Post OBJ era off to a rousing start.

 

[Saint Kamara]

Baker now has 5 career games with at least a 130 QB Rating.

4 of those games OBJ was not playing

The 5th game he didn't catch a single ball