The Derek Chauvin trial {Mod Edit: Guilty on all charges} (2 Viewers)

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I don’t have much to say about this but if you heard the testimony of some of the prosecutions witnesses today and didn’t have a tear in your eye you aren’t human. Yes the man had a criminal record, yes the man had drugs in his body but he didn’t deserve to die like that. Could the drugs have killed him???? Maybe. Did he have other health conditions that could’ve killed him???? Maybe. But that cop took those decisions into his on hands and brought about an outrage in this country that’s been at the surface for a long time. God it’s time we turn to you.
 

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think you also have to look at the nature of the reports. Chauvin had multiple complaints of excessive force or other misuse of his authority as a police officer. I think 18 complaints in 19 years is probably quite high in the modern era, and his record would be considered by many in law enforcement management to have been a problem that suggested a need for mitigation.

Not to play devil's advocate, but seriously? Only 22 complaints in 19 years? In a job where every day, every person you meet is either an outright criminal, beligerently pissed off, afraid for their lives, or just severely stressed from some kind of trauma? That's just over 1 per year. I'd like to see those "complaints". Were they from the people being arrested or generally not getting their way? People who didn't like the outcome, no matter how correct it may have been? How many times do we see the "Karens" come out and complain about things that either aren't actual problems or just not the way they want it? They may be legitimate complaints or they may be frivolous. I don't know. Just something to think about.

I'm going to go ahead and play devil's advocate and say that a little more than an average of once a year, either someone had the guts or the abuse was so over the top that those folks actually filed a formal complaint about it....I'd like to see those complaints too, I think DOJ can't wait to see them....I don't think (just like the trial's verdict) that there is really much to think about here....
 

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It's like being written up once a year at a regular job. Or having recordable safety incidents every year in a construction job.

A ticket or a wreck every 12 months for a driver. No way you last past year 3 or 4. He went 19. Not to mention the years where there were multiples.

Those are the kinds of people who eventually end up doing exactly what he did. The warning signs were there.
 

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Yea, if i have to write up my guy once a year for a safety violation, he wouldn't make it past the three year mark.
 

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Will he be in solitary just until he is sentenced or will this be his life for the next X years?
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Derek Chauvin is being held in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day in Minnesota’s only maximum-security prison after he was convicted of murdering George Floyd and led out of a courtroom in handcuffs, according to authorities.....

Mr. Chauvin, who is being held as he waits to be sentenced, will be alone in his cell for all but one hour each day, during which he is allowed to exercise. Even then, he will be kept away from all other prisoners and remain under the watch of prison guards inside the unit..........

 

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Will he be in solitary just until he is sentenced or will this be his life for the next X years?
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Derek Chauvin is being held in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day in Minnesota’s only maximum-security prison after he was convicted of murdering George Floyd and led out of a courtroom in handcuffs, according to authorities.....

Mr. Chauvin, who is being held as he waits to be sentenced, will be alone in his cell for all but one hour each day, during which he is allowed to exercise. Even then, he will be kept away from all other prisoners and remain under the watch of prison guards inside the unit..........

He needs to be under suicide watch as well. People are not built for 23 hours per day in solitary confinement.
 

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The last witness for the prosecution was OUTSTANDING, a 9 year old girl!!! 👍🇺🇸👏
The 9 year old testified that as soon as the Paramedics arrived they told the cops 👮‍♀️,
“Get off of him.” 🙏🏻🇺🇸🙏🏻
 

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Will he be in solitary just until he is sentenced or will this be his life for the next X years?
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Derek Chauvin is being held in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day in Minnesota’s only maximum-security prison after he was convicted of murdering George Floyd and led out of a courtroom in handcuffs, according to authorities.....

Mr. Chauvin, who is being held as he waits to be sentenced, will be alone in his cell for all but one hour each day, during which he is allowed to exercise. Even then, he will be kept away from all other prisoners and remain under the watch of prison guards inside the unit..........


Smh...solitary confinement in a cell alone for 23 hours a day is cruel and unusual punishment. Remove him from society, yes, but this isn't necessary. There's ways to ensure his safety that don't require this level of torment.

Our police and prison system both need an overhaul.
 

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Smh...solitary confinement in a cell alone for 23 hours a day is cruel and unusual punishment. Remove him from society, yes, but this isn't necessary. There's ways to ensure his safety that don't require this level of torment.

Our police and prison system both need an overhaul.

I tend to agree. But, I'm not really sure what the alternative is for someone who is separated from gen pop. I doubt he'd live long around other prisoners regularly.
 

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I tend to agree. But, I'm not really sure what the alternative is for someone who is separated from gen pop. I doubt he'd live long around other prisoners regularly.
Exactly.....he would be a goner in no time flat.
 

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A recently-surfaced photo shows one of the jurors on Derek Chauvin's trial wearing a Black Lives Matter T-shirt at a police-accountability protest last summer, possibly complicating the former officer's guilty verdict.

The photo in question shows Brandon Mitchell, or juror 52, attending a rally in Washington, DC, in August, named the "'Get Off Our Necks' Commitment March." You can see it here.

The protest was pegged to the 57th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s March on Washington, and the shirt Mitchell wears in the photo includes King's likeness and includes the words "Get your knee of our necks" and "BLM."

Multiple people tweeted that this suggested Mitchell was impartial as a juror.......



 

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A recently-surfaced photo shows one of the jurors on Derek Chauvin's trial wearing a Black Lives Matter T-shirt at a police-accountability protest last summer, possibly complicating the former officer's guilty verdict.

The photo in question shows Brandon Mitchell, or juror 52, attending a rally in Washington, DC, in August, named the "'Get Off Our Necks' Commitment March." You can see it here.

The protest was pegged to the 57th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s March on Washington, and the shirt Mitchell wears in the photo includes King's likeness and includes the words "Get your knee of our necks" and "BLM."

Multiple people tweeted that this suggested Mitchell was impartial as a juror.......




If he intentionally hid his support for BLM during jury selection questioning, I think that would be problematic. But, if he didn't try to hide it, I'm not seeing this being an issue. That said, I have no idea what the jury questioning looked like during the selection process.
 

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A recently-surfaced photo shows one of the jurors on Derek Chauvin's trial wearing a Black Lives Matter T-shirt at a police-accountability protest last summer, possibly complicating the former officer's guilty verdict.

The photo in question shows Brandon Mitchell, or juror 52, attending a rally in Washington, DC, in August, named the "'Get Off Our Necks' Commitment March." You can see it here.

The protest was pegged to the 57th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s March on Washington, and the shirt Mitchell wears in the photo includes King's likeness and includes the words "Get your knee of our necks" and "BLM."

Multiple people tweeted that this suggested Mitchell was impartial as a juror.......



that particular Tweeter is an interesting read...
anyway

Mitchell said he answered “no” to two questions about demonstrations on the questionnaire sent out before jury selection.

The first question asked: “Did you, or someone close to you, participate in any of the demonstrations or marches against police brutality that took place in Minneapolis after George Floyd’s death?” The second asked: “Other than what you have already described above, have you, or anyone close to you, participated in protests about police use of force or police brutality?”

Mitchell told Nelson during jury selection that he had a “very favorable” opinion of Black Lives Matter, that he knew some police officers at his gym who are “great guys,” and that he felt neutral about Blue Lives Matter, a pro-police group. He also said he had watched clips of bystander video of Floyd being pinned and had wondered why three other officers at the scene didn’t intervene.

He said he could be neutral at trial.

Mitchell told the Star Tribune that last summer’s protest was “100% not” a march for Floyd.

“It was directly related to MLK’s March on Washington from the ’60s … The date of the March on Washington is the date … It was literally called the anniversary of the March on Washington,” he said.
 

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How bad is this? Is there a real chance of this being overturned?
 
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If the Chauvin team gets the right Judge in the appeals process, he might have a decent shot at winning. Politicians and that one juror that did that big interview should have just kept their mouths shut. Now you have this incident, just one big quagmire after another.
 

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How bad is this? Is there a real chance of this being overturned?
i mean there were always going to come with some sort of appeal
and what's going to happen now is the george floyd side will consider this a done deal and focus on all the other abuse cases out there, and people like this tweeter who is running for a seat in Fla will pump out mis/disinformation to create a ground swell - to what extent it will be effective remains to be seen
but i could easily imagine reduced charges
 

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