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Its decision time for Loomis and Payton.

Keeping Drew might cost crucial young players that are essential to our future. We cannot mortgage the future based on what ifs and maybes.

Keeping Drew can hurt us in another way as well. Even if we did have a " good year " , anything short of winning it all is going to hurt badly and resulting poor draft positioning for next year.

So we could potentially find ourselves , out of key players who we couldnt afford to pay to keep Drew one more year , and with horrible draft positioning next year with Drew in my opinion definitely retiring at next seasons end.

I think theres a win for our franchise , that ensures we get our guy under center for the next decade or more to come without us having to lose key players.

It is better to let go a year early than a year too late.

Extend either Taysom Hill or Teddy Bridgewater, they will be our new Starter. Now either they prove to be Studs as starters and Taysom is Steve Young or Teddy B is legit or we suck. Yay !

Why is this good news ? Because , just as excited as everyone is about Joe Burrow this year , Everyone will be more excited about Trevor Lawrence next year. Trevor's shown more consistent play in multiple seasons.

Having a bad year at the right time could net us a franchise QB to go with our young vibrant budding team.

If we have the chops to believe we could get Burrow 20 something picks away this year , we could definitely grab Lawrence next year much closer.


And that's if things go badly !


Taysom or Teddy could prove to be Studs at the controls full time.

In any event we get our answers, and we get our QB guaranteed. If we get greedy today , we may lose out on everything tomorrow.


Goodbyes are never fun.
 

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Question.
Why do we speak of Brees as if we’re doing him a favor by letting him hang around? Are we just going to forget the fact that he had arguably his best season last year? Are we ignoring that 2017-2020 Brees is actually better than 2006-2016 Brees? I’m not overly sentimental and I have no problem letting go of Brees...when he can no longer play. But now is certainly not that time.
 

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Question.
Why do we speak of Brees as if we’re doing him a favor by letting him hang around? Are we just going to forget the fact that he had arguably his best season last year? Are we ignoring that 2017-2020 Brees is actually better than 2006-2016 Brees? I’m not overly sentimental and I have no problem letting go of Brees...when he can no longer play. But now is certainly not that time.
I'm sorry but I must have overlooked the super-bowl we won between 17-20? No ring, no progress.
 

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I'm sorry but I must have overlooked the super-bowl we won between 17-20? No ring, no progress.
I see.
I admit to being late to this conversation. But I gather from your tone that you’re in the “let Brees walk and replace him with quarterback x because qb x will lead us to multiple Super Bowls” crowd. January is silly season around the NFL and I’ve seen some dramatic posts on SR lately. Personally, I’ll leave the player evaluations to the professionals. If coach Payton thinks Brees can still perform at a high level and help this team win, I trust his judgment.
 
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I'm sorry but I must have overlooked the super-bowl we won between 17-20? No ring, no progress.
This is a league with 32 teams in it. We've managed to become one of the elite teams in the NFL the last three years. Most teams would gladly trade places with us because just making the playoffs is difficult, much less winning a SB.

The idea that another QB is going to lead to us winning the SB in the near future is possible, but unlikely. It's more likely to lead to a regression.
 

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This is a league with 32 teams in it. We've managed to become one of the elite teams in the NFL the last three years. Most teams would gladly trade places with us because just making the playoffs is difficult, much less winning a SB.

The idea that another QB is going to lead to us winning the SB in the near future is possible, but unlikely. It's more likely to lead to a regression.
As I've said before, I don't think TB or TH will leave us to the SB nextyear. I would rather we take one step back, and then two steps forward than continue with the 1 mo year mantra we've on for the past 3 years. But honestly there is no difference between losing in the first round of the playoffs or third. I believe we have a playoff roster that is bigger than Drew, and someone like Teddy is just as capable of Kirk or Jimmy G. The argument for Drew is that he will get us over the hump and he has not been able to these past three years and he will be 42 next year. Once you become SB winner that becomes the standard, not a winning, and not just making the playoffs. That's not how elite franchises operate
 

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Drew Brees is my quarterback as long as he wants to play. You don’t shoo away an annual stalwart because Teddy Bridgewater played pretty well for a five-game sample size, and you especially don’t shoo him away for a gadget player (admittedly, a great one) with an even smaller sample size of passing success.

Teams wait decades (like us) if they ever get a quarterback in Brees’ league. If he wants to play, you make everything else work around him.
Worked out well for Bill Walsh
 

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As I've said before, I don't think TB or TH will leave us to the SB nextyear. I would rather we take one step back, and then two steps forward than continue with the 1 mo year mantra we've on for the past 3 years. But honestly there is no difference between losing in the first round of the playoffs or third. I believe we have a playoff roster that is bigger than Drew, and someone like Teddy is just as capable of Kirk or Jimmy G. The argument for Drew is that he will get us over the hump and he has not been able to these past three years and he will be 42 next year. Once you become SB winner that becomes the standard, not a winning, and not just making the playoffs. That's not how elite franchises operate
That's fine. I just think the idea that you are going to get rid of Drew Brees and then take two steps forward is probably overly optimistic.
 

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That's fine. I just think the idea that you are going to get rid of Drew Brees and then take two steps forward is probably overly optimistic.
I don't mean overnight. I just mean we can start the process of finding his replacement, which will represent progress instead of regression. We have some challenges ahead I just believe we might as well get going rather continue to delay the inevitable.
 

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I’m not even sure I know what this means.
It means one more stud won't make a difference in a SB appearance. We came out flat, in a home playoff game where you are one and done. The team didn't want to be in the playoffs.

Demario Davis, Taysom, Harris and maybe one or 2 more are the only players that decided to show up.

If we want to contend for a SB we have alot to change because going 13-3 doesn't mean anything. This team has played like crap in the playoffs besides 2009. It's do or die next year because Brees, as good as he is, won't get it done. Teams can just tee off on him and once the pressure gets to him, it's game over.
 

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Its decision time for Loomis and Payton.

Keeping Drew might cost crucial young players that are essential to our future. We cannot mortgage the future based on what ifs and maybes.

Keeping Drew can hurt us in another way as well. Even if we did have a " good year " , anything short of winning it all is going to hurt badly and resulting poor draft positioning for next year.

So we could potentially find ourselves , out of key players who we couldnt afford to pay to keep Drew one more year , and with horrible draft positioning next year with Drew in my opinion definitely retiring at next seasons end.

I think theres a win for our franchise , that ensures we get our guy under center for the next decade or more to come without us having to lose key players.

It is better to let go a year early than a year too late.

Extend either Taysom Hill or Teddy Bridgewater, they will be our new Starter. Now either they prove to be Studs as starters and Taysom is Steve Young or Teddy B is legit or we suck. Yay !

Why is this good news ? Because , just as excited as everyone is about Joe Burrow this year , Everyone will be more excited about Trevor Lawrence next year. Trevor's shown more consistent play in multiple seasons.

Having a bad year at the right time could net us a franchise QB to go with our young vibrant budding team.

If we have the chops to believe we could get Burrow 20 something picks away this year , we could definitely grab Lawrence next year much closer.


And that's if things go badly !


Taysom or Teddy could prove to be Studs at the controls full time.

In any event we get our answers, and we get our QB guaranteed. If we get greedy today , we may lose out on everything tomorrow.


Goodbyes are never fun.
Dilemma? What Dilemma?
 

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