Article The Drew Brees Signing from An Historical Standpoint (1 Viewer)

[dtc]

How was that a dumb statement? Brooks wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

He's a smart guy. He went to UVA and he runs a pretty big and successful company now.

This ongoing notion that he was a dumb guy is wrong.

 

[MLU]

Remember when McCarthy has to reduce the playbook dramatically for Brooks?

Was that before or after Brooks broke almost every meaningful passing record for the Saints?

 

[MLU]

Man, Drew Brees is special. He sees it all,disects it all, & puts every single person around him in a position to succeed. If you fail with Drew as your dancing partner. The odds are pretty good it was your bad. Drew, Tom Braddy, & Peyton Manning are a breed apart form any other QBs in NFL history. Their collective QB IQs are so off the charts they can only be measured by decades of success, championships, wins, records broken. Aaron had the physical skills, but by the time Payton got there it was too late for Brooks. his confidence was shot to hell & he had lost the fan base & ownership on top of that. Now Mahomes has the skill set to be the greatest of all time. The only question is, will he let his mental game evolve to become as awesome as his physical play is. If he does & stays healthy, it's only a function of time before he eventually pushes past all the old dudes & sets new records that the next generation will say can never be broken.

After a lifetime of success, you don't just stop knowing how to play and throw a football, AB called out Benson for treating the team like ****. He was done before the season ended and Haslett was fired. He was so toxic only Al Davis would sign him. That's just another dirty detail like Benson about to move the team to San Antonio before Tags stepped in that people "forget".

 

[SaintStephen1]

Guys, my comment wasn’t as much an indictment of Brooks as it was a comment regarding the complexity of Payton’s offense. Doesn’t appear any of the young QBs drafted since he arrived have picked it up either. This is why I think the successor to Brees will be a FA veteran rather than a recently drafted rookie.

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

Was that before or after Brooks broke almost every meaningful passing record for the Saints?

Does it matter? The records he broke weren't huge accomplishments, since the Saints sucked on offense from their inception.

 

[VPCajun]

Man, Drew Brees is special. He sees it all,disects it all, & puts every single person around him in a position to succeed. If you fail with Drew as your dancing partner. The odds are pretty good it was your bad. Drew, Tom Braddy, & Peyton Manning are a breed apart form any other QBs in NFL history. Their collective QB IQs are so off the charts they can only be measured by decades of success, championships, wins, records broken. Aaron had the physical skills, but by the time Payton got there it was too late for Brooks. his confidence was shot to hell & he had lost the fan base & ownership on top of that. Now Mahomes has the skill set to be the greatest of all time. The only question is, will he let his mental game evolve to become as awesome as his physical play is. If he does & stays healthy, it's only a function of time before he eventually pushes past all the old dudes & sets new records that the next generation will say can never be broken.

Mahomes will always be great for FF, not so sure as a top tier qb.

(Just look at the LA game, boy did he cough up the ball.)

I guess this year will tell us a lot on what kind of QB he will be.

ps

I can't believe the Chiefs-Rams game was the ESPY choice for best game...

smh

 

[VPCajun]

Aaron Brooks:

* 4th round draft pick in the ‘99 NFL draft
* backup behind Favre in GB
* Jeff Blake went down hard; Brooks stepped up and led Saints to the playoffs & 1st playoffs win
* Brooks had one of the best efficiency seasons for a QB, racking up 24 TD’s to only 8 int’s
* A.B. was the 1st QB in NFL history to pass for 400 yds in a game AND rush for 100 yds in a game ...in the same season

Many of us hated his grinning, especially after a bad play. But some people do that as a nervous reaction. Overall, the guy made us proud more often than not. And if you didn’t already know, Aaron Brooks has already been enshrined in the Saints Hall of Fame.

IMO, it’s unfair to speak of his Wonderlich score, or speculate that he wouldn’t be able to pick up on CSP’s playbook. The fact remains that A.B. was an NFL starter, and performed better than most Saints QB’s who preceded him.

Brooks:
www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrooAa00.htm

As far as comparing A.B. to Brees, it would be an exercise in futility.

I've always felt that the Saints staff ruined AB by forcing him to be a "Pocket Passer" and foregoing letting him move out of the pocket and/or use his legs to run when it was there.

 

[2fya]

Mahomes will always be great for FF, not so sure as a top tier qb.

This has to be a joke. You are blind if you really think this

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

I've always felt that the Saints staff ruined AB by forcing him to be a "Pocket Passer" and foregoing letting him move out of the pocket and/or use his legs to run when it was there.

Now, that's something I can agree with.

 

[MLU]

Does it matter? The records he broke weren't huge accomplishments, since the Saints sucked on offense from their inception.

Of course it matters. AB was also the first QB to throw for 400 and run for 100 yards. There were never concerns that he didn't grasp the offense. No one ever claimed he was elite, but he was a very good QB.

 

[2fya]

Of course it matters. AB was also the first QB to throw for 400 and run for 100 yards. There were never concerns that he didn't grasp the offense. No one ever claimed he was elite, but he was a very good QB.

I will never understand the AB hate. The guy was a serviceable qb that played with a terrible offensive line and had a terrible defense.

I loved AB

 

[sfidc3]

How was that a dumb statement? Brooks wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

This is an ignorant statement. You really should do some research before you post garbage like this. Brooks graduated from UVA which is a very good school and he runs a successful development company and is trying to improve the impoverished community he grew up in....

I never really had a problem with AB, I though he and other talented players in the end suffered for playing under Jim Haslett.....

 

[dtc]

I will never understand the AB hate. The guy was a serviceable qb that played with a terrible offensive line and had a terrible defense.

I loved AB

He had Roaf and Turley and that line was more than serviceable. He took some savage hits because he was coached to stand tall in the pocket instead of running around and he did it. When they told him no interceptions, he did it. He took the hit and ate the ball because he was told not to run and not to throw it away.

He's a classic victim of bad scheming and he had all the talent in the world. He was a comeback kid and celebrated around the league for his poise and escapeability.

 

[2fya]

He had Roaf and Turley

For a year or 2. That is when they were good.

Most of his time here was spent with wayne gandy and victor riley. Some absolute train wrecks.

 

[MamaRoux]

Link?

HISTORY ring a bell for you? What sort of “LINK” can quantify NFL football intellect except being a TEAM player and knowing how to recognize opponent defensive schemes just by the way they line up and respond to your own shifts to signal their defensive calls? Just recall what you saw and that should be the only “LINK” anyone needs to give him away!