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Yeah, this would really get a lot more people on board. To be able to charge in the same amount of time required to fill up a tank of gas would be a game changer. I think the biggest roadblock right now is the availability of charging stations for long distance travel.
I think that will be remedied in time. At least they are starting the process in places.

 

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It's looking like Rivian is going to highly prioritize the Amazon delivery van over the R1T truck for a while. According to a comment, made by the CEO, it will take them two years to get through their current orders.


I can't wait two years. I can barely wait one year.
 

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Yeah, this would really get a lot more people on board. To be able to charge in the same amount of time required to fill up a tank of gas would be a game changer. I think the biggest roadblock right now is the availability of charging stations for long distance travel.

I think this would be one of the last few hurdles for those on the fence. I think it could also help introduce cheaper models. Say for example a vehicle with 150-200 mile range but 5 minute charging, in my mind smaller range wouldn't be such a big deal with 5 minute charging. Also with 5 minute charging, I think a lot of people wouldn't bother with the expense of installing a charger at home


supposedly will double the network by 2025
 

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Getting ready to make a 6-ish hour trip in our Model 3 and used Tesla's trip planner to show superchargers along the way and at the destination. Stopping to charge adds about an hour each way, so that isn't bad. All of the supercharger locations are at service centers that have restrooms and food courts.
Just wanted to follow up: the trip went well even with traffic delays near our destination.

The trip was from Massachusetts to Pennsylvania, crossing four other states in the process (RI, CT, NY, NJ). On the way there, we stopped at a supercharger at about the 3/5's mark. The charger was convenient to a place with restrooms and restaurants and allowed us to have a nice break before diving into traffic starting near NYC (we needed to cross the G. Washington Bridge), easing up on the Jersey Turnpike and then ramping up again as we neared our destination in Pennsylvania. We parked with 58% charge left.

On the way home, we stopped at a supercharger near our destination and topped off - about 30 minutes. Since it was a Sunday, traffic was greatly reduced and we were able to make good time. We found that, along the way, several service centers here have or are installing the Tesla superchargers. I never once felt like we would run out of juice before we could find a place to charge up. We stopped briefly (about 25 minutes) in Connecticut to charge and stretch. We arrived home with just under 45% charge.
 

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Just wanted to follow up: the trip went well even with traffic delays near our destination.

The trip was from Massachusetts to Pennsylvania, crossing four other states in the process (RI, CT, NY, NJ). On the way there, we stopped at a supercharger at about the 3/5's mark. The charger was convenient to a place with restrooms and restaurants and allowed us to have a nice break before diving into traffic starting near NYC (we needed to cross the G. Washington Bridge), easing up on the Jersey Turnpike and then ramping up again as we neared our destination in Pennsylvania. We parked with 58% charge left.

On the way home, we stopped at a supercharger near our destination and topped off - about 30 minutes. Since it was a Sunday, traffic was greatly reduced and we were able to make good time. We found that, along the way, several service centers here have or are installing the Tesla superchargers. I never once felt like we would run out of juice before we could find a place to charge up. We stopped briefly (about 25 minutes) in Connecticut to charge and stretch. We arrived home with just under 45% charge.
Yeah, I'd expect the northeast to be ahead of the curve when it comes to charging stations. There are a lot of EVs on the road. Quite a few where I live have Teslas and other brand EVs. The new Wawa down the street has a bunch of charging stations. The Walgeens here usually has a couple of them. The mall has a bunch of them.

So, it's not hard to find them here. That said, I'm not sure what it's like in remote, rural areas of Virginia, but I imagine pretty sparse there.
 
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Yeah, I'd expect the northeast to be ahead of the curve when it comes to charging stations. There are a lot of EVs on the road. Quite a few where I live have Teslas and other brand EVs. The new Wawa down the street has a bunch of charging stations. The Walgeens here usually has a couple of them. The mall has a bunch of them.

So, it's not hard to find them here. That said, I'm not sure what it's like in remote, rural areas of Virginia, but I imagine pretty sparse there.
I suspect rural adoption will be slow. Urban for daily commute seems to be the right choice for now. Imagine if you can shutdown all those idling ICE's on the interstate everyday as the traffic does. Big gain for the environment and much less wasted fuel.
 

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Yeah, I'd expect the northeast to be ahead of the curve when it comes to charging stations. There are a lot of EVs on the road. Quite a few where I live have Teslas and other brand EVs. The new Wawa down the street has a bunch of charging stations. The Walgeens here usually has a couple of them. The mall has a bunch of them.

So, it's not hard to find them here. That said, I'm not sure what it's like in remote, rural areas of Virginia, but I imagine pretty sparse there.
Even in rural areas here, there are generally a couple of superchargers within easy reach. We've noticed that, in Western areas of the state, some of the municipalities have installed charging stations. They may not be 48Kw + stations but are good enough to get you where you need to go.
 

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The new 2022 BMW i4 is coming out soon and I'm pretty disappointed. It has a 245 mile range, no frunk, and those terrible blue accents car companies keep putting on hybrid and electric vehicles. I was really looking forward to this car, but I can't see why one would get it over a dual motor Model 3. I HATE the blue accents.
 

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The new 2022 BMW i4 is coming out soon and I'm pretty disappointed. It has a 245 mile range, no frunk, and those terrible blue accents car companies keep putting on hybrid and electric vehicles. I was really looking forward to this car, but I can't see why one would get it over a dual motor Model 3. I HATE the blue accents.

What’s the pricing look like?
 

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The pricing isn't all that bad.
i4 eDrive40 base price (M50 as tested): $56,395 ($66,895)
 

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The new 2022 BMW i4 is coming out soon and I'm pretty disappointed. It has a 245 mile range, no frunk, and those terrible blue accents car companies keep putting on hybrid and electric vehicles. I was really looking forward to this car, but I can't see why one would get it over a dual motor Model 3. I HATE the blue accents.
I like the blue,,,, a lot.
It's got about 56 more HP than the Model 3, better interior, probably a lot better panel gaps. There is a lower end version that has just short of 300miles.

It has DC fast charging but InsideEV shows that it drops off it's charging rate really quickly after hitting just 25% capacity. Also, despite having more HP, it's 0-60 time is slower than a Model 3 performance (3.7sec vs 3.1sec). That's probably because the BMW is 1000lbs heavier.
What’s the pricing look like?
$65900 + $995 destination. But I think BMW still qualifies for the $7500 tax credit.
The Model 3 performance starts at $58990.

 

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You like blue paint or all the blue accents to let us know it's an EV or both? I like the paint color just fine and even the blue brake calipers.
 

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You like blue paint or all the blue accents to let us know it's an EV or both? I like the paint color just fine and even the blue brake calipers.

I like it all. Blue is, by far, my favorite color.
 
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0-60 time is slower than a Model 3 performance (3.7sec vs 3.1sec)
Both of those are seriously fast times. Wouldn't similar size and style ICE vehicles struggle to match that at a higher cost while requiring more maintenance?
 

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