Article The Girod Street End Zone take on the penalty disparity (1 Viewer)

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While there have been some attempts, things get too easily explained away.

"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers" -- Thomas Pynchon

It's a lot worse than you think. The few who have tried to look into it, like Jeff Asher and that well-meaning guy from Yahoo, were looking at the wrong things. Historical data is useful and necessary to make a control group of sorts, but you truly have to focus on this season, and in the details, because the world changed after the NFCCG. Too much material, so we had to break it into two parts.

Now, here are the ones on the defense that can make or break your defense, and you’re largely in the hands of the referees’ mood that day. Bear in mind, each of these is also an automatic first down, again through 12 games:

Defensive pass interference

Called on the SaintsLeague averageCalled on the opponents
9 for 122 yards (2nd)6.62 for 11 yards (30th)
Defensive holding

Called on the SaintsLeague averageCalled on the opponents
9 for 45 yards (2nd)5.81 for 5 yards (T-31st)
Illegal use of hands

Called on the SaintsLeague averageCalled on the opponents
8 for 39 yards (1st)2.40 for **** all (T-31st)

 

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Not that it makes a lick of difference. But it’s fun to scream into a void
Apparently, I already follow the officiating account. Strange that they never seem to show up in my feed. I can't recall seeing any tweets from them.
 

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Apparently, I already follow the officiating account. Strange that they never seem to show up in my feed. I can't recall seeing any tweets from them.
I just went and looked through their feed. Funny how they showed the overturned no-call from the Carolina game but not Payton's challenge on the Cook OPI that definitely should've been overturned, isn't it?
 

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They (NFL & Officials) will just ignore it.... Even if it's covered by every major news outlet. We know the truth sadly. But it's more just confirmation that we aren't crazy.
 

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1) Because of a 50+ year bond with a team, a game and a city I love.
2) A great camaraderie with friends at games and on this site.
3) A dumb, blind loyalty and glimmer of hope that this can be changed and the current situation improved.

My bond with the game has deteriorated significantly - hell the game is become unrecognizable. And it's taking its toll as I realistically see myself putting it behind me one day. I never thought that'd be the case. So, yeah, I may stop watching. Just not all the way there. Yet.
Ditto, literally. Every single point applies to me, and I'm sure lots of others too.

I hope they square the bad officiating away, it's ruining a great tradition for me and countless others. The officials are a tight union and brotherhood, and it appears they are beginning to flex their muscles. They want their slice of the fame and fortune pie. In future, I think bucking officials will bring forth more and more retribution as they gain power and notoriety.
 

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I wonder how the NFL will defend this . . .
To who? If you try to bring a lawsuit against them you're a whining fan that has nothing better to do. If, say, WWL or WVUE give it steam, New Orleans is a bunch of crybabies. Any press conference has plants who are not gonna ask anything they don't want asked, coaches and players are fined if they say anything, so exactly who do they have to answer to? They don't have to answer to anyone and a big reason why is because they have so many fans, even Saints fans, hoodwinked into thinking, "It can't be cheating because it would be leaked by now". Even Zach Strief keeps excusing it as simply incompetence.

To the people who think the NFL couldn't get away with cheating, its a vicious cycle. You think something would leak if they were cheating, but every time something leaks, you excuse it as incompetence.
 

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It is amazing that we are the #1 seed in spite of all of this. And those two losses could have easily been wins. The Rams game Drew got hurt AND we were hosed by the scoop and score that wasn't allowed. The Falcons game was just stupid.

Here's what I think we are being set up for unfortunately. Two years ago, heartache in such an unfathomable way. Last year, heartache by something so blatant that they changed the rules because of it. This year, they want us to make it all the way just to rip our hearts out in front of the entire world.
 
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It is amazing that we are the #1 seed in spite of all of this. And those two losses could have easily been wins. The Rams game Drew got hurt AND we were hosed by the scoop and score that wasn't allowed.
Not to mention the five OL holding penalties -- one on each starter. Versus one on the Rams OL.
 

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One of our friends tried to coach up Larry and Scooter, but the MSM isn't having any of this. Maybe they're afraid people will expect THEM to do this next time.

Chicken bleep cowards
 

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How are we supposed to fight back?
Know your roll. Take your place, enjoy the billions this league brings in, stop bellyachin and you will get left alone. But speak up/out and find yourself in the cross hairs.

Its really that simple.

And I applaud the Saints brass and coaches for simply not conforming. Especially when we have a generational talent like Drew. (ever wonder why he isnt revered as Manning or Brady yet has or will have most QB records???)

Ahhh I'm getting aggravated again.
 

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1. The history of human civilization in one sentence: "Never underestimate the power of little men to use what they have to bring you down to their level."

2. One of the funniest phrases I've read in, well, a while: "...because they beat on each other like rival gangs of baby seals"

3. It's probably useless (at least beyond Florio and Pat McAfee) to send to NFL national or beat writers -- they can say/write things that appear to be controversial but most won't dare do so on a story that questions the "integrity" of the game. Better to focus on linking to investigative writers with big outlets (e.g. WSJ, NYT, Washington Post).

4. Re: #3 above, for impact maybe wait until after we get hosed this Sunday (win or lose) in a game with seeding implications clear to a non-fan and then maybe repackage the stats in a, shall we say, less entertaining format?
 

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