The GOAT thread (2 Viewers)

I'm sorry, but Jerry Rice is number two behind him.
Hutson not only played WR, he also played DB (had 23 INTS in his last 4 seasons alone) and kicked field goals. He was a true iron man. He played offense, defense, and special teams in every game. He made all his receiving records in a league (including his own team) that was built on the run, not the pass.
In 11 seasons, Hutson led the league in receiving yards 7 times (4 times consecutively, still a record), in receptions 8 times (consecutively, still a record), and in receiving TDs 9 times (still a record, Rice is second at 6 times). Of those three stats, he finished in the top three 32 out of 33 times in those 11 seasons.
Hutson also led the league in scoring 5 times, which is a still record, and he did it five years in a row.

Rice broke Hutson's records but he didn't break the TD and yardage records until he'd played several more games than Hutson played (remember that Rice played 16 game seasons where all of Hutson's were 12 game seasons).
Hutson missed four games in his career, so he played 128 games.
Largent first broke Hutson's TD record in his 200th game.
Rice caught his 100th TD pass in his 144th game.


My favourite Hutson moment is an interview that I believe was in the late 1980s after Rice had broken a few of his records. He was asked, "If you were playing today, what kind of stats do you think you would put up?"
He answered with a very moderate yards, reception and TD numbers, which made the interviewer frown and ask, "Why do you say such low numbers?"
Hutson answered, "Well, you have to remember I'm nearly 80 now."
Well, if we are going to use the era they played in as a qualifier, you would have to throw Brady out as GOAT QB because this is the most QB friendly era and it began with his "fumble" vs the Raiders. I would say at WR, Lynn Swann, didn't have the numbers but he was just so graceful on the field, could catch anything.

And if we are talking presidents, JFK. I mean, c'mon, Marilyn Monroe?! Hands down winner.
 
Dwight D. Eisenhower
I don't think he's close to the GOAT but I do think he is vastly underrated.

If you mean "as a military leader" he's definitely in the finals.
 
I don't know about being the"goat," but certainly the best since WWII.
The issue with picking presidents is they are subject to the variations of history and the law of unintended consequences
DDE pushing for federal highway system (and thus the development of suburbia) is a struggle (perhaps even a disease) that we continue to suffer from

Similarly with Lincoln- his appeasement which allowed Jim Crow to flourish in short order erasing much of Emancipation makes it difficult to crown him
FDR’s knock is something much more direct- a lot of great programs (that if we continued to use would have mitigated so many economic hardships that followed) but then he created redlining which has been a reverse economic/racial engine for nearly a century now
 
I don't think he's close to the GOAT but I do think he is vastly underrated.

If you mean "as a military leader" he's definitely in the finals.
Ike’s greatest skill was organization and balancing many interests. He was an extremely skilled politician which really held together the Allies well during WW2. His record as a president was very good also. Certainly the best post Roosevelt president.
 
Ike’s greatest skill was organization and balancing many interests. He was an extremely skilled politician which really held together the Allies well during WW2. His record as a president was very good also. Certainly the best post Roosevelt president.

The only real knock on Eisenhower’s presidency is that he bought into the domino theory and Soviet containment that misjudged a regional feudal conflict as being part of global Soviet expansion that set the stage for Vietnam and all of the upheaval that came with it. Yes others had the chance to change course, not saying it’s his fault. But the policy line that led to 11 years of war and the fall of Saigon started with Eisenhower.
 

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