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Brees can't throw an NFL 15 yard out. We saw it on 2 plays in a row where he lobbed the ball to the sideline. He can't throw the ball down the field unless a guy is open by 10 yards. He doesn't trust himself to get it there, and he won't even try. When we crucify our receivers we need to remember this. Some WRs have to run routes more than 15 yards down the field on any given play. But they won't be getting thrown to because of Drew's arm strength.

By the time we get to the playoffs, some team will shut down the short passes and the run, and we won't be able to take advantage on 15 yards and deeper opportunities. And then if the defense doesn't carry us, we will be out again.
 

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As the biggest Brees fan on the planet, I'm seeing for the first time that decline we've been talking about.

If we get any negative play during a series of downs, we are almost guaranteed to get to 4th down. Brees gets sacked, series is over. Offensive holding, series is over. It's sad to see, but it's happening.

That being said, we saw the very best of Drew and his intellect. He's the smartest QB to ever play the game.

But yeah we can't get the ball down field anymore.

Which is why Michael Thomas has to be declared the best receiver in football, knowing our offensive pass plays are very limited.

28-35 228 yards, 3 TDs, 0 Ints will win you a Super Bowl however. All is not lost. Let's keep the faith.
 

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Brees can't throw an NFL 15 yard out. We saw it on 2 plays in a row where he lobbed the ball to the sideline. He can't throw the ball down the field unless a guy is open by 10 yards. He doesn't trust himself to get it there, and he won't even try. When we crucify our receivers we need to remember this. Some WRs have to run routes more than 15 yards down the field on any given play. But they won't be getting thrown to because of Drew's arm strength.

By the time we get to the playoffs, some team will shut down the short passes and the run, and we won't be able to take advantage on 15 yards and deeper opportunities. And then if the defense doesn't carry us, we will be out again.
This is possible.

We sure aren't taking shot plays anymore. Like zero.

I like the offense we are running (less the Atlanta game) and think it's the right offense, but part of the formula would be to pick moments for shot plays. And we aren't taking any shots.

Seam routes, deep outs, throws to the end zone, the 25-30 yard throws in tight spaces all WAY down to non existent.

Hopefully it's lingering issues with the thumb more than the arm and it gets better because if the play selection is what it is to protect Drew, or Drew himself doesn't trust it, then yes in the playoffs this would get exposed.
 

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It was very noticeable today. Sorry. The op is making a point that is not wrong.
Of course it's noticeable. The opposite hash 20 yard out (which is what the play he's citing actually was, it was 2nd and 18) is the toughest throw to make in football. It's way more distance than it looks on TV. Most QBs don't make it consistently, much less a guy who's 40.
 

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Brees can't throw an NFL 15 yard out. We saw it on 2 plays in a row where he lobbed the ball to the sideline. He can't throw the ball down the field unless a guy is open by 10 yards. He doesn't trust himself to get it there, and he won't even try. When we crucify our receivers we need to remember this. Some WRs have to run routes more than 15 yards down the field on any given play. But they won't be getting thrown to because of Drew's arm strength.

By the time we get to the playoffs, some team will shut down the short passes and the run, and we won't be able to take advantage on 15 yards and deeper opportunities. And then if the defense doesn't carry us, we will be out again.
Stay off the crack, bro!
 
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Here's the hard truth about me.

I don't care. I heard the same crap about Teddy when he was in. Who do y'all want?
Teddy could chuck it 35+ yards down the field to Ginn if it was there. He is famously known for being cautious, you are right. But I legit don't think Drew could throw 35 yards today if it was in warmups.
 
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