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Is it a good thing, or a bad thing?

EDIT: For clarity, I will state here that the issue I'm referring to is the increasing tendency for people to be overly or excessively sensitive in regard to being quick to take offense to what other say or do. Some seem to feel that it will make people think twice about expressing anything that is even potentially offensive to another person. Others simply see hasty verbal retaliation as something that will keep people divided and uncomfortable with one another.
 
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Don Lemon's take on the Kevin Hart sorry/not sorry
watch it unless you're hypersensitive

I think Kevin Hart and Don Lemon are both hillarious. Lemon, of course, does not intend to be, but nonetheless he is a national treasure for bringing home the lols.
 

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Oye, ours is an idealistic view in that to achieve these things you promote people would really have to genuinely care about those around them no matter who they are or where they come from, rather than just tolerate other people.
I acknowledged that it is somewhat pollyannish and I don't expect we'll every actually get there ever. And I don't think I'll see a ton of improvement in my lifetime.

So, rather than focus on that broadly, I try to make an impact in the circles I am in - especially with our youth. I find them more receptive and more skeptical, in a healthy way, than adults most times. Trying to get a rich kid to see something from a poor kid, a white kid from a black kid, a Canadian from an American, a North American from a Middle Eastern, and so on.

Teach about media literacy and the ways in which we can be duped and fooled and buy into things that are actually distortions - and what do those distortions say both about the targeted group and the group doing the distorting.

The more information given to these kids, the better. The more perspectives they are presented with, the better. The more tools they are given to break down media messages and understand how the media sits in the middle (hence, "media") between Us and Some Other Thing Not Us and what that can mean.

But I'm pretty aware of the limitations of my own work, but I know a lot of this is happening - and, as I've mentioned before now, it's not always easy nor constructive nor fair. The hope is that we can continue toward a more understanding middle ground. Expectations tempered, of course.
 
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As a general rule I think that people who talk more about their opinions are more sensitive than those who talk about their opinions less. Expressing one's thoughts that this should be that way, and that should be this way, and it's wrong how it is is, to a significant degree, an expression of sensitivity. Perhaps the more someone does that the more sensitive they are. Also, the frequency and intensity with which that's done may determine whether or not one's sensitivity is "hyper."

It's not always bad to be hypersensitive. Maybe it's not even usually bad. I associate sensitivity with caring. In my opinion there are good things and bad things to care about, just as there are good and bad things to be sensitive about, and you'd agree with much of it, while disagreeing with much of it.

Some of my favorite people have been hypersensitive to the things I'm sensitive about. MLK for instance could be considered hypersensitive. His hypersensitivity to racism and war has led to a much better world. It's hard to argue that MLK was not a sensitive man.

Optimistically, in the long run, I think all of our disagreements are just a slow process towards a more agreeable world. We live in a new age of mass communication that's expanding rapidly. Our community is growing -- consequently more opinions will be shared to a greater extent and there will be a greater clash, more opportunities for our sensitivities to be triggered.

Sharing our sensitivities is generally a good thing. How else could we learn to better live with one another?
I agree that when extreme sensitivity is taken to mean 'in tune with the feelings and needs of others', then that certainly is a good thing. Since I didn't make it clear originally, I edited my OP to explain that I was referring to a hyper-sensitivity that makes them easily offended by what everyone says and does. This type of sensitivity is more about their own feelings than those of others. More and more people have become quick to argue or retaliate when someone suggests something they do not agree with.

Hopefully this makes more clear what I meant from the start.
 
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I acknowledged that it is somewhat pollyannish and I don't expect we'll every actually get there ever. And I don't think I'll see a ton of improvement in my lifetime.

So, rather than focus on that broadly, I try to make an impact in the circles I am in - especially with our youth. I find them more receptive and more skeptical, in a healthy way, than adults most times. Trying to get a rich kid to see something from a poor kid, a white kid from a black kid, a Canadian from an American, a North American from a Middle Eastern, and so on.

Teach about media literacy and the ways in which we can be duped and fooled and buy into things that are actually distortions - and what do those distortions say both about the targeted group and the group doing the distorting.

The more information given to these kids, the better. The more perspectives they are presented with, the better. The more tools they are given to break down media messages and understand how the media sits in the middle (hence, "media") between Us and Some Other Thing Not Us and what that can mean.

But I'm pretty aware of the limitations of my own work, but I know a lot of this is happening - and, as I've mentioned before now, it's not always easy nor constructive nor fair. The hope is that we can continue toward a more understanding middle ground. Expectations tempered, of course.
Well, keep up the good work. I'm sure you are having a positive effect on many young people... and that's a good thing!
 

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I think Kevin Hart and Don Lemon are both hillarious. Lemon, of course, does not intend to be, but nonetheless he is a national treasure for bringing home the lols.
if yoy're in it for the yucks, you'll love this:
Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes is still struggling to distance himself from his extreme image. After stepping down in November from the far-right group he created, McInnes now wants neighbors in his tony New York suburb to take down yard signs aimed at him and his former group.
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After the New York attack, one of McInnes’s neighbors in the wealthy suburb of Larchmont proposed that residents buy “Hate Has No Home Here” signs as a quiet rebuke to McInnes and the Proud Boys. The signs, which feature the message in several languages, soon started appearing in Larchmont.
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“I am writing on behalf of my family to ask you to reconsider whether the message of your lawn sign moves our world and our village in the direction of love at all, or whether it sends a very different message instead,”


https://www.thedailybeast.com/gavin-mcinnes-writes-letters-to-neighbors-to-take-down-anti-hate-signs
 

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if yoy're in it for the yucks, you'll love this:
Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes is still struggling to distance himself from his extreme image. After stepping down in November from the far-right group he created, McInnes now wants neighbors in his tony New York suburb to take down yard signs aimed at him and his former group.
...
After the New York attack, one of McInnes’s neighbors in the wealthy suburb of Larchmont proposed that residents buy “Hate Has No Home Here” signs as a quiet rebuke to McInnes and the Proud Boys. The signs, which feature the message in several languages, soon started appearing in Larchmont.
...
“I am writing on behalf of my family to ask you to reconsider whether the message of your lawn sign moves our world and our village in the direction of love at all, or whether it sends a very different message instead,”


https://www.thedailybeast.com/gavin-mcinnes-writes-letters-to-neighbors-to-take-down-anti-hate-signs
I don't care about that one way or another, but when I am feeling the blues I do play that video of the one guy knocking out three of those "warriors" in a row. Good times.
 

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I agree that when extreme sensitivity is taken to mean 'in tune with the feelings and needs of others', then that certainly is a good thing. Since I didn't make it clear originally, I edited my OP to explain that I was referring to a hyper-sensitivity that makes them easily offended by what everyone says and does. This type of sensitivity is more about their own feelings than those of others. More and more people have become quick to argue or retaliate when someone suggests something they do not agree with.

Hopefully this makes more clear what I meant from the start.
More and more people may have become quick to argue and retaliate, but that may not be because people have become more sensitive. I just think that it's the result of more and more availability of inexpensive global communication, information, and ease of participation, rather than some change in the way people are. The way that people think hasn't changed as much as their ability to express themselves has changed. Actually, considering that we've made so much social progress in the last century, I'd probably argue that people in general have become better.
 

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To cut through the BS and put it simply:

This is what a hyper-sensitive person actually sounds like.

There are currently far more people who are hyper-sensitive themselves over a perceived "hyper-sensitive PC-culture safe-safe participation-trophy culture" than there are people who actually belong to that culture. That culture is largely a media creation designed to sell advertising to the first group of people on television and radio.

Why did you trigger people? Because this imaginary advertising-selling culture fueled Trump's election, and I'll bet one functioning and funded federal government that it isn't working out that well and has a few people upset.
Ok lets cut through the BS and put it simply:

If you think the ""hyper-sensitive PC-culture safe-safe participation-trophy culture" is perceived and not real then maybe you need to get out into the real world more often. I could not care less about generation snowflake who get their panties twisted into a knot because their favorite candidate lost an election or because someone wears a hat that offends their fragile sensitivities. It's called losing and it's something that they have a very difficult time dealing with because they've been told most of their lives that there are no losers.

I'm not going to apologize to anyone because I have an issue with a man who puts on women's underwear and believes that it gives him the right to use the same rest room that my wife and 12 year old daughter uses. I'm not ever going to bow down to the "pronoun correct" rhetoric because if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's not a giraffe because it has a long neck.

Denying that something does indeed exist doesn't make it not real and I've paid my dues in the real world and in the work force to be able to express my own opinion on the real things that I see going on around me.

You're judging me without knowing a thing about me and that's fine because you have the right to do that or at least you think you do. Either way I don't care.

So you can go right ahead and believe that all this stuff is just a made up media creation all you want because the only one you are fooling is yourself.

If anything that I believe in or have said triggers your sensitivities then it's mission accomplished because I've proven that you can pull a jackass without a rope and lead him right to where you want him to go.
 

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I think it’s hard to account for how the information age has changed our perception of events.

Very few of these events that spark outrage would have been widely known of beyond the local area or region 40 years ago.

Now everyone knows about every little thing. It’s not hard to find 10,000 examples of people out of 350,000,000 that are rabidly outraged over almost anything. That doesn’t make their outrage meaningful.

Then it gets processed through our binary political system, and everyone has to pick a side.

All of the sudden we have a crisis of outrage/PC/sensitivity that is actually just a byproduct of our inability to adapt to almost omniscient awareness.
 

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Ok lets cut through the BS and put it simply:

If you think the ""hyper-sensitive PC-culture safe-safe participation-trophy culture" is perceived and not real then maybe you need to get out into the real world more often. I could not care less about generation snowflake who get their panties twisted into a knot because their favorite candidate lost an election or because someone wears a hat that offends their fragile sensitivities. It's called losing and it's something that they have a very difficult time dealing with because they've been told most of their lives that there are no losers.

I'm not going to apologize to anyone because I have an issue with a man who puts on women's underwear and believes that it gives him the right to use the same rest room that my wife and 12 year old daughter uses. I'm not ever going to bow down to the "pronoun correct" rhetoric because if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's not a giraffe because it has a long neck.

Denying that something does indeed exist doesn't make it not real and I've paid my dues in the real world and in the work force to be able to express my own opinion on the real things that I see going on around me.

You're judging me without knowing a thing about me and that's fine because you have the right to do that or at least you think you do. Either way I don't care.

So you can go right ahead and believe that all this stuff is just a made up media creation all you want because the only one you are fooling is yourself.

If anything that I believe in or have said triggers your sensitivities then it's mission accomplished because I've proven that you can pull a jackass without a rope and lead him right to where you want him to go.
You’re right, you don’t have to apologize
Your having to carry all that around by yourself seems burden enough
 

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Ok lets cut through the BS and put it simply:

If you think the ""hyper-sensitive PC-culture safe-safe participation-trophy culture" is perceived and not real then maybe you need to get out into the real world more often. I could not care less about generation snowflake who get their panties twisted into a knot because their favorite candidate lost an election or because someone wears a hat that offends their fragile sensitivities. It's called losing and it's something that they have a very difficult time dealing with because they've been told most of their lives that there are no losers.

I'm not going to apologize to anyone because I have an issue with a man who puts on women's underwear and believes that it gives him the right to use the same rest room that my wife and 12 year old daughter uses. I'm not ever going to bow down to the "pronoun correct" rhetoric because if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's not a giraffe because it has a long neck.

Denying that something does indeed exist doesn't make it not real and I've paid my dues in the real world and in the work force to be able to express my own opinion on the real things that I see going on around me.

You're judging me without knowing a thing about me and that's fine because you have the right to do that or at least you think you do. Either way I don't care.

So you can go right ahead and believe that all this stuff is just a made up media creation all you want because the only one you are fooling is yourself.

If anything that I believe in or have said triggers your sensitivities then it's mission accomplished because I've proven that you can pull a jackass without a rope and lead him right to where you want him to go.
Respectfully, you seem to be more than a little sensitive (and frankly, judgmental) about a lot of things yourself.

I don’t think this is the thread to get into whether you are right or wrong, or argue our opinions about that, but I will say that many people feel differently about issues of sex, gender, work ethic and toughness (especially how it relates to age/generation) than you do.

While you may think them wrong, they have a case and a right to be heard. Sure, some fly off the handle and make terrible arguments but that’s true of all camps/sides/generations/etc. Many more have great explanations for why they think and feel certain ways.

Frankly, I wish more people would listen before speaking so strongly about “sensitivity”, “panties in a wad” and “snowflakes” while dismissing what the other person was actually saying.

Holding off on the labels and judgement doesn’t mean that you have to agree with them. And I’ll be honest, not everyone who has a negative reaction to some of what you just posted is being sensitive. Sometimes people do say judgmental and offensive things.

Sure, it’s not the end of the world, but disagreeing with it or saying “I didn’t appreciate that” doesn’t necessarily mean their panties are in a wad.
 

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You’re right, you don’t have to apologize
Your having to carry all that around by yourself seems burden enough
Well it's my cross to bear and I'm not asking for help from anyone to do the heavy lifting.

This thread has proven to be the epitome of hyper sensitivity and I've done enough damage here so it seems.

Trust me when I say that I knew exactly what I was doing and got the exact result that I expected to get..................and it was fun.
 

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Well it's my cross to bear and I'm not asking for help from anyone to do the heavy lifting.

This thread has proven to be the epitome of hyper sensitivity and I've done enough damage here so it seems.

Trust me when I say that I knew exactly what I was doing and got the exact result that I expected to get..................and it was fun.
Well that’s disappointing.

Instead of having a conversation or trying to listen to a disagreeing opinion, you just throw out some unearned “snowflake” insults, claim you were only trolling for reactions/lulz, and leave.

Too bad. What’s the expression? When someone shows you who they are, believe them.
 

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Well that’s disappointing.

Instead of having a conversation or trying to listen to a disagreeing opinion, you just throw out some unearned “snowflake” insults, claim you were only trolling for reactions/lulz, and leave.

Too bad. What’s the expression? When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

How was I supposed to listen to a disagreeing opinion when just about every reply to what I said was met with how ultra sensitive and neanderthal I was being for expressing my own opinion? I'm not totally void of listening to differing opinions at all but there has to be a middle ground with it.

I just played the game according to what it boiled down to is all..................nothing more and nothing less.

I am far from perfect and none of us who have expressed an opinion here are.
 

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How was I supposed to listen to a disagreeing opinion when just about every reply to what I said was met with how ultra sensitive and neanderthal I was being for expressing my own opinion? I'm not totally void of listening to differing opinions at all but there has to be a middle ground with it.

I just played the game according to what it boiled down to is all..................nothing more and nothing less.

I am far from perfect and none of us who have expressed an opinion here are.
I certainly don’t claim to be perfect. I never have and definitely didn’t imply it in this thread.

I just don’t understand how you can complain about people suggesting that you may be sensitive when your first posts made a lot of generalizations and judgements about people, basically just based one their age.

Your comments only got harsher and more (objectively) insulting from there. But somehow it’s everyone else who are “snowflakes” and the “epitome of hypersensitive”? The suggestion that you might be a little sensitive or that you might not be listening to others is, what, unfair criticism?

You claim to want a “middle ground” but didn’t hesitate to toss out insults, labels, and dismissals when people started disagreeing with you (way before anyone got even close to calling you a “Neanderthal”). Then you all but admitted that you were just trying to stir the pot and get some lulz.

It just seems like if you have a certain view of something then others need to “rub some dirt in it”, toughen up, and quit “getting their panties in a wad” (not to mention implying that you are the one being realistic and they are clearly wrong).

But if people disagree with you then you’ll just resort to labels and insults, complain about the lack of a middle ground, and make vague (or perhaps not) references to trolling for reactions.
 

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renegadewa: you are the person in the thread whose words express the most fear, vulnerability, and rage. They are not words an emotionally stable or healthy person uses. Your bizarre insertion of an unhinged transphobic rang out of nowhere shows you don’t seem to be able to collect your thoughts-your negative emotions are controlling you and disrupting your ability to produce relevant discourse. This had nothing to do with bathrooms.

The reason people are upset about Trump is not because they don’t like “losing”, and thinking so demonstrates a team sport mentality that can only be arrived at through a stunning lack of empathy-empathy being a key indicator of emotional intelligence. It’s because the stated goals of he and his associates have the potential to, in their view, damage the country’s security, economic stability, and civil rights.

People who think anti-Trump feelings are a result of the opposition being “sore losers” are people who do not understand what a United States President actually is or does beyond being a moral and cultural figurehead.
 

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