The Jameis Winston/Taysom Hill Bee Hive (1 Viewer)

[DerrickB]

In New Orleans there is

Taysom bee hive
And
Jameis bee hive

You can't critique either QB without each base listing a bunch of excuses on why they aren't having success.

 

[Goatman Saint]

One has a 5-2 record in the middle of being displaced by a hurricane. The other has about a 45 passer rating with 0 wins and 5 ints

I don’t see the argument here

 

[BelowZero]

The way I see it is that both quarterbacks went out there with the same cast of weapons and coaches, and the results quite literally speak for themselves. Taysom had more interceptions in one game than Winston had all season with this same group.

There's no longer any argument where Taysom is realistically better. Hill may be better than Trevor, at best. But this argument ended with a winning record 7 games into the season.

 

[TenTwo]

I like them both. Prefer Jameis but think we can win with either.

 

[DerrickB]

One has a 5-2 record in the middle of being displaced by a hurricane. The other has about a 45 passer rating with 0 wins and 5 ints

I don’t see the argument here

Give me a sec

 

[DerrickB]

One has a 5-2 record in the middle of being displaced by a hurricane. The other has about a 45 passer rating with 0 wins and 5 ints

I don’t see the argument here

 

[whodatsaint]

I don’t need facts and stats, I have Taysom. Go Taysom!

 

[Goatman Saint]

I don’t need facts and stats, I have Taysom. Go Taysom!

5 INTs and a passer rating of 45. Ok sure.

What exactly has he done this year to make you feel he’s the answer? Like hard proof, not just man he tricked some guys 4 years ago and he’s the man

 

[No2DC]

One side has facts, the other side has effort.

 

[Judge_Smails]

One side roots for all Saints QBs. The other side only roots for their QB.

 

[inetnawlins]

One has a 5-2 record in the middle of being displaced by a hurricane. The other has about a 45 passer rating with 0 wins and 5 ints

I don’t see the argument here

So, 3-1 as a starter last year doesn’t count? That’s convenient.

 

[Mississippi Saints Fan]

Too many people are in love with one or the other QBs that they are blind to facts. It's undebatable that Winston is the best QB. He easily won the job. Siemain would have probably looked much better behind a healthy o-line, and Taysom probably would have finished with a much better game had he not jacked up his finger. They still wouldn't have been as good as Winston. People are so emotionally attached that it's hard to rationalize anything with them. Some excuses are absolutely valid. Some are just arguments to validate their own opinion.

 

[Jesse Custer]

So, 3-1 as a starter last year doesn’t count? That’s convenient.

#1 defense in the NFL in those three wins. At one point in the game against the Broncos, Taysom was 3/6 for 3 yards. That's 0.5ypa.

 

[Taker597]

They both shown a lot of growth, but Taysom seems to be right at the his ceiling while Jameis still got plenty of room to grow. I do worry about that knee affecting his greatest strength. The deep pass accuracy.

Which is funny... Because Winston hasn't been a great deep ball passer in the NFL. Which is a sign of his internal growth from him.

He's realistically our best option going forward and there unfortunately not many options to improve that position.

It would be nice if Winston could get more objective analyst instead of these casual filth that people have to stand up too. If aren't forced to defend Winston against gross misinformation and personal grievances. We would have open discussions about his flaw, but those aren't the discussions. The discussion is to get rid of him.

We can't have a civil discourse about what Winston need to improve of because people that speak out against Winston just want him gone with no better talent to replace it. It's shameful and disgusting. They rather tank than try to win with Winston. Who isn't perfect and had a ton of growing pains. He was atleast growing. Hill and Trevor are kind of what they are.

 

[inetnawlins]

#1 defense in the NFL in those three wins. At one point in the game against the Broncos, Taysom was 3/6 for 3 yards. That's 0.5ypa.

At one point? Really? How about his completion percentage in those three games?