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Big Ben you can make a case for. That guy when healthy is a great QB.
Big Ben went for 0 TDs and 2 INTs in his first SB win. That was also the one SB that many people argue had biased officiating because there were numerous bad calls in that game that benefited Pittsburgh.
Eli Manning has never won a playoff game outside of 2007 and 2011. The idea of him being a winner in NY is largely a myth, as he's bound to retire this year with more losses than wins.
People just look at their resume, count the rings and call them "winners".
More examples of why the ring argument needs to die.
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