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I don't know how y'all do the multi day fasts. But then again, I didn't think it would be so easy to do 22 hours. I want to try one for a couple of days.
 

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Hard to say. It's got a nice crunchy texture, there is some mint, shredded cabbage and carrots and it I believe the veggies are pickled. I looked up Vietnamese pickling and I think I am going to try it at home. It's quick, easy, and tastes great....light and a little sweet and a little tart (honey and vinegar). I could be completely wrong, but I think this is what is done to the veggies in this salad.

Oh, that could work for me if that's good for the gut biome. I don't have any Asian groceries near me, though, I don't think. I'm going to have to find one. Anyone know of any in Metairie for the next time I'm there?
 

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Oh, that could work for me if that's good for the gut biome. I don't have any Asian groceries near me, though, I don't think. I'm going to have to find one. Anyone know of any in Metairie for the next time I'm there?
There is one on Severn or Edenborn or at least was. I live near Hong Kong Market though so I haven’t been in several years. There is also a general international food store a block off Cleary between Vets and interstate. It has Asian supplies but I feel it is much more geared toward Middle East and European stuff.
 

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I don't know how y'all do the multi day fasts. But then again, I didn't think it would be so easy to do 22 hours. I want to try one for a couple of days.
From a true, true hunger standpoint, I think it gets easier. You can "fill up" with water or coffee (supposedly caffeine has a light appetite suppressant effect). When I tried longer than 48, it wasn't the hunger, it was missing the habit of walking out into the kitchen and popping something in my mouth and chewing (and chomping on ice chips didn't do the trick). Also, even though people don't care that you are fasting, if you are going to be around people during this multiple-day fasting event and others are eating and you aren't, you ARE going to have to explain not eating. At least I found that's what would scuttle me. I'm learning to have the power of my own conviction to overcome these things.
 

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There is one on Severn or Edenborn or at least was. I live near Hong Kong Market though so I haven’t been in several years. There is also a general international food store a block off Cleary between Vets and interstate. It has Asian supplies but I feel it is much more geared toward Middle East and European stuff.
Thanks. I'll have to check closer into that. I assume there's a lot on Chef but I rarely venture out there for various reasons.
 
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From a true, true hunger standpoint, I think it gets easier. You can "fill up" with water or coffee (supposedly caffeine has a light appetite suppressant effect). When I tried longer than 48, it wasn't the hunger, it was missing the habit of walking out into the kitchen and popping something in my mouth and chewing (and chomping on ice chips didn't do the trick). Also, even though people don't care that you are fasting, if you are going to be around people during this multiple-day fasting event and others are eating and you aren't, you ARE going to have to explain not eating. At least I found that's what would scuttle me. I'm learning to have the power of my own conviction to overcome these things.
I'm not currently doing a fast, but have been limiting my calorie intake for a few weeks. The haven't been using the scale, but I can see in the mirror that it's working.

Anyway, what you said about explaining really struck a chord. Now that I'm paying attention to how much I eat and making healthier choices on purpose, I can really tell I'm healthier. A lot of my gastro events are just gone and I don't feel bad from over eating. I'm not tired because I didn't sleep with all the extra weight causing sleep apnea and GERD. I understand now that I was eating a very unhealthy diet learned as I grew. And I now realize that I don't want to gather just to eat like a pig anymore. It's gluttonous and unneeded.

I'm not going tell the whole fam that I'm not eating because I think they are pigs. I will let them know that I've learned how much I need to eat and what makes me feel healthy physically as well as emotionally. If that's not good enough they'll hear that if diet choices don't line up with what they want me to eat, then they might want to adjust their expectations.
 

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I'm not going tell the whole fam that I'm not eating because I think they are pigs. I will let them know that I've learned how much I need to eat and what makes me feel healthy physically as well as emotionally. If that's not good enough they'll hear that if diet choices don't line up with what they want me to eat, then they might want to adjust their expectations.
Sex, politics, and food ... the bastion of things that are not appropriate dinner conversation. lol We say, I don't care what people eat, but then we spend a lot of time -- perhaps unconsciously -- observing what people eat. Or offer the advice, Just eat moderately. Sounds helpful but it's really not instructive at all. I've let a lot of "helpful" comments and "advice" affect me in a way that was not good for me as I tried to make better food choices in the past. I've also done a lot of damage quite fine on my own. I suspect now that what people say verbally and openly to another about their food choices reflects more on themselves and how they feel about their own choices ... well, or virtue signaling. But I think we're all a little more aware now of what's in our foods we eat and that's a good thing.
 
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Really informative stuff. I don’t struggle with OMAD at all so I want to try one of the longer ones.
I like his idea of periodic resets. I think I'm going to schedule a few and see how it goes. I have no problem doing longer fasts other than getting started.
 

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I like his idea of periodic resets. I think I'm going to schedule a few and see how it goes. I have no problem doing longer fasts other than getting started.
Agreed. The twice monthly and 4 times yearly for the longer ones seemed like it was doable. Also liked his explanation of autophagy which I was never clear on.


On plateaus, I have found that having a feast day seems to reset me also. Plus Im always looking for a good reason to have one of those lol. But I will try at least a 36 or so hour fast soon.
 

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I have decided to try a 3-day fast after Thursday. Now, I don't plan on overeating too much but compared to what is my "normal" now, it will be. So I will freeze the leftovers and then go through the weekend and make it a 72 hour plus.
 

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Be careful eating too much protein when coming off a fast as well. It can spike insulin nearly as much as carbs, especially when coming off a fast.
 

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Be careful eating too much protein when coming off a fast as well. It can spike insulin nearly as much as carbs, especially when coming off a fast.
Yeah, I'm gonna research that so that also I'm not upsetting my stomach, too. I'm thinking that the thought that I only need to do this long term 2 or 3 times a year at most will help me rather than thinking this is something I need to do every month.
 

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Yeah, I'm gonna research that so that also I'm not upsetting my stomach, too. I'm thinking that the thought that I only need to do this long term 2 or 3 times a year at most will help me rather than thinking this is something I need to do every month.
Breaking a fast is a process. You want to do smaller portions, and definitely don't start out with heavy foods, meats and proteins. It will take a day or two for your body to adjust to eating again after fasting 3+ days.
 

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