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Ok this is what I just picked up from Our Daily Bread in Baton Rouge

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@Madmarsha we had discussed whether my fasting was correct and it looks like you are partly right...certainly I wasn't getting ALL the benefits I wanted. According to Dr. Sten Eckberg I still would get most of the benefits although likely I wasn't achieving autophagy which is a major loss. Plus my sugar free with stevia candies had a few calories and just the act of tasting something sweet can trigger certain reactions that aren't wanted

So this time I am doing a strict one and my goal is 10 days. Hopefully achieving this get me rolling into 2022 on a good start.

Last time I ate was Wednesday 5pm. I did get a bit loopy earlier in the late afternoon and earlier this evening my body was definitely letting me know something was missing in my life but that only lasted about an hour and I am feeling relaxed and chill right now (Delta 8 tincture helping with that I am sure)

My only real issue so far is that I was invited to go out to eat and to a movie on Sunday which would be nice since things have been so rough. I nearly said yes since 4 days of fasting isn't bad but I told them to go eat without me and I would meet them at the movies where I will do my best to ignore the smell of popcorn lol

Overall feeling good at just over the 20% mark
 

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Here’s what I’ve started using as my main fasting drink:

1L water
3/4 tsp Morton’s Lite Salt (870mg sodium, 1050mg potassium)
.3 cc pure stevia powder (a pinch)
1 Tbsp apple cider vinegar
Squeeze of a bit of lemon or lime juice to taste

Then I take 200mg magnesium glycinate (tablet) twice a day, along with a b-complex.

I have black coffee in the morning, and drink tea and sparkling water throughout the day whenever I feel like it.

Jogged 4.5 miles yesterday. If I’m going to keep up on daily exercise/sweating I’ll probably need to up the sodium a bit. Once in ketosis the body should get all necessary energy from body fat. From my understanding it’s mostly a lack of sodium that can lead to lightheadedness and lack of energy.
That drink's a good one.

I just started to take the magnesium glycinate, too. Just curious, which one do you take? I'm always on the search for the best price but also magnesium shopping is confusing.

Sounds like you're doing all the "hacks"!
 

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I broke during the game honestly. I said **** and I ordered a pizza. And I drank some wine. Could hardly eat any of it. I don’t recommend breaking a fast with red wine and pizza. It’s not a problem for me because I seem to have an iron stomach, but not a good idea generally. Made it 4 days and lost 12 pounds so trying to focus on the positive. I’ll get back at it soon.

I blame the Saints for my failure.
Ha. I munched during the game, too, on a good bit of carbs and protein, so then today I wanted ALL the food and I blame the Saints for that. I managed to go 16 hours, though, and stayed keto. I should be back in ketosis this weekend but not playing anything longer than IF.

I always had an iron stomach, too, but I don't push it after a fast. The noises coming from my stomach tell me to be careful. I dunno what it is but I identify it as the rumbling of peristalis.
 

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@Madmarsha we had discussed whether my fasting was correct and it looks like you are partly right...certainly I wasn't getting ALL the benefits I wanted.
Just partly?




lol. Yeah, it's easy to think it's hard and fast rules or it's not "true" fasting, but I realize there can be a couple different motives. And I think some religious fasts are so strict you are not even allowed water, so. I am very interested in autophagy but not everyone is or maybe for not the same reasons.
 

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Just partly?




lol. Yeah, it's easy to think it's hard and fast rules or it's not "true" fasting, but I realize there can be a couple different motives. And I think some religious fasts are so strict you are not even allowed water, so. I am very interested in autophagy but not everyone is or maybe for not the same reasons.

Depends on what your goals are but since I am interested in autophagy, I wasn't achieving all my goals with it

Also ordered Delta in vape form in case tinctures are an issue
 

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Also ordered Delta in vape form in case tinctures are an issue
It is crazy what you have to look at and pay attention to. For instance, they say that a calorie or two, depending what kind of fast you're looking for, is okay. So I looked at the magnesium glycinate I am taking thinking that didn't have any calories. It's 10 CALORIES! So I may be wishing I had a magnesium tincture.
 

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It is crazy what you have to look at and pay attention to. For instance, they say that a calorie or two, depending what kind of fast you're looking for, is okay. So I looked at the magnesium glycinate I am taking thinking that didn't have any calories. It's 10 CALORIES! So I may be wishing I had a magnesium tincture.
Tinctures are oil based which is calories. That's why I ordered Delta 8 vapes and am leaving the tincture alone. The odds are it isn't enough to interfere, but I will be damned if I am going thru all this trouble to risk forking it up lol
 

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Tinctures are oil based which is calories. That's why I ordered Delta 8 vapes and am leaving the tincture alone. The odds are it isn't enough to interfere, but I will be damned if I am going thru all this trouble to risk forking it up lol
I've only ever taken one thing by tincture before and it was alcohol based.
 

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I think I am ready to move to one meal a day fasting cycle. I ate at 11am today and wasn't really hungry but just did my eggs and salmon with some veggies.
I think it's super easy as long as you have no underlying issues that would cause you to get hypoglycemic. If I would get, as I call it, "shaky hungry", I'd eat. But while yesterday I was super hungry because of the blood sugar pinging I had done the night before, I wasn't "shaky" hungry so I waited 16 hours and then ate. We think hunger is an emergency but it isn't, in my humble opinion, unless you're hypoglycemic.

Of course, now I want eggs and salmon.
 

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I think it's super easy as long as you have no underlying issues that would cause you to get hypoglycemic. If I would get, as I call it, "shaky hungry", I'd eat. But while yesterday I was super hungry because of the blood sugar pinging I had done the night before, I wasn't "shaky" hungry so I waited 16 hours and then ate. We think hunger is an emergency but it isn't, in my humble opinion, unless you're hypoglycemic.

Of course, now I want eggs and salmon.
My go to are scrambled eggs, lemon butter salmon, roasted squash, zucchini, and Brussels sprouts.
 

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I think it's super easy as long as you have no underlying issues that would cause you to get hypoglycemic. If I would get, as I call it, "shaky hungry", I'd eat. But while yesterday I was super hungry because of the blood sugar pinging I had done the night before, I wasn't "shaky" hungry so I waited 16 hours and then ate. We think hunger is an emergency but it isn't, in my humble opinion, unless you're hypoglycemic.

Of course, now I want eggs and salmon.
I find that when I’m doing them I get hungry in very short waves that pass fairly quickly. It helps to be busy. On busy work days I hardly even have to think about it.
 

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