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No thanks. I'd rather win.Let's draft all OSU next year
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No thanks. I'd rather win.Let's draft all OSU next year
If you haven't noticed the deep ball has taken a back-seat to a more ball control offense over the last 2 years. We aren't the prolific downfield team we've all grown to love over the years. There has been a substantial down tick (based on eye test) in that regards.
Ponying up money for Cooks who will eventually turn into a secondary option seems to foreshadow a waste of money. Replacing him with a middle tier 2nd round pick would suffice. Remember Allen Robinson was found in the 2nd round.
Tommy Lee Lewis development could also be something to keep an eye on.
John von Neumann. One of the greatest minds in history.
don't forget about Alfred E Newman on that list
Great call on the Vonn play....
I've only heard of two people ever that went by "Von".
Vonn Bell
Von Miller
Yeah baby.
Great play by Bell. i am not sure though that it vindicates the decision to punt.
If we were down by one td, punting might have made sense. To me, the percentages favored going for it. The odds of making a 4th and 6 are much greater than creating a fumble, much less two fumbles. And while credit is due to the defense for their 4th quarter stops, once again based upon their play this year it was not probable we would get those stops. One fumble wasn't even created by ghee defense, it was just a drop.
Frankly Payton's decision surprised me. He has never struck me as a conservative coach. i just think that overall the chances of Brees making six yds outweigh the chances of us getting two turnovers in the last six minutes.
Either way, the odds were against us. I think they were against us more once we gave SD the ball. I am very glad it worked out and have little doubt Payton knows better than me. Hopefully we can start having some games where we dont need turnovers in the end to win.
Agreed. I was livid at the decision, and even with hindsight I think it very much him waving the white flag. We were very fortunate that our defense made a play on the very first play of the possession, but IMO if they even go 3 and out at that stage we likely would have lost the game.
Let's say that they go three and out and punt it back to us with 5:30 left. We're still going to have to march 70-80 yards for a touchdown, and then force another stop with around 2 minutes left if we're lucky, just to march another 70-80 yards for a touchdown with zero timeouts and who knows how much time left on the clock.
That's why I'm so pumped up about this play - because if it doesn't happen, we lose.
I'm giddy as hell about our win, but I'm just concerned that the decision to punt showed a little surrender in Sean Payton.
If you haven't noticed the deep ball has taken a back-seat to a more ball control offense over the last 2 years. We aren't the prolific downfield team we've all grown to love over the years. There has been a substantial down tick (based on eye test) in that regards.
Ponying up money for Cooks who will eventually turn into a secondary option seems to foreshadow a waste of money. Replacing him with a middle tier 2nd round pick would suffice. Remember Allen Robinson was found in the 2nd round.
Tommy Lee Lewis development could also be something to keep an eye on.
I HAVE noticed this EJW, but I haven't been able to determine whether it's due to necessity (lack of "speed" receiving personnel), inability to protect Drew long enough for those plays to develop (lack of guards), Drew's age (shorter ball-control offense should extend career for a few more years, if he isn't taking too many hits), or by design to keep the historically inept defense off the field. Perhaps a combination of all the above?
I respect your thoughtful opinions and analyses. What's your take?
in addition to the first names already mentioned
Vonnie Holiday - 1st game as a Chief he sacked Drew Brees 3 times (with the Chargers at the time)
Van Helsing
The Von Erich family
and I named my son with HoFer Arky Vaughan partially in mind