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The United States as a Failing State? - The Globalist

In my opinion, yes and failing rapidly. Even if the voting process itself is not corrupted on a large scale, the means by which a candidate is brought forth to election is seriously flawed. Political corruption is rampant, and Obama himself once said of the special interest bribery of congress "It is a system which does no exist in any other democracy" Well Mr President, the United States IS failing.

By many indices the US is on the border of a failed democracy, ranking at 15-20 in the world as of 2015, so these indices fail to account for the complete disaster of this 2016 election season.

http://www.yabiladi.com/img/content/EIU-Democracy-Index-2015.pdf

So what do we do? Allow the US to slide into chaos? This election would seem to indicate we're already on the brink of chaos.
 
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So what do we do?
We unite. We stop making a monster out of government and recognize that while flawed, it is still our best option. We demand peace, take funding from the military industrial complex, and use it to better educate our kids. We elevate basic human needs above corporate profits.


At least, that might be a good place to start imho.
 

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It's funny to complain about corruption in the party's when we only started using the semi "binding" primary election in 1968.

Otherwise, only a few states did the non-binding type in the early 1900's and it slowly grew from there.
 
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We unite. We stop making a monster out of government and recognize that while flawed, it is still our best option. We demand peace, take funding from the military industrial complex, and use it to better educate our kids. We elevate basic human needs above corporate profits.


At least, that might be a good place to start imho.
And we separate our legislators from their corporate handlers. Completely removing corporate "donations" (bribe money) would go a long way toward restoring faith in the legislative system. As it is now, we have no reason to believe our legislators will put the public good above corporate greed.
 

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We unite. We stop making a monster out of government and recognize that while flawed, it is still our best option. We demand peace, take funding from the military industrial complex, and use it to better educate our kids. We elevate basic human needs above corporate profits.


At least, that might be a good place to start imho.
i'm good with this
infrastructure, education (including daycare/childcare/ family leave), and health (esp eldercare) -take care of those and then maybe look at public/private partnerships for the rest
 

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And we separate our legislators from their corporate handlers. Completely removing corporate "donations" (bribe money) would go a long way toward restoring faith in the legislative system. As it is now, we have no reason to believe our legislators will put the public good above corporate greed.
Those corporate masters were a problem because profits often outweighed public interest, but at least they were Americans, but the problem is even greater now that those corporations are multinationals with no allegiance to the US.
 

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And we separate our legislators from their corporate handlers. Completely removing corporate "donations" (bribe money) would go a long way toward restoring faith in the legislative system. As it is now, we have no reason to believe our legislators will put the public good above corporate greed.
It's too bad the Dems voted the complete opposite with Hillary, when they could have supported Bernie.

Mind-boggling isn't it?
 

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Something has to be done to limit the power of the lobbies. Clearly politicians on both sides of the aisle are corrupt, but it's a systematic corruption. The interests of the American people should not come in second behind the needs of vast corporations. This is not a conspiracy theory, this is what happens in real life everyday. The energy plants in my town are pumping toxins into the air at an alarming rate, but not only do the politicians do nothing about it, they are actively seeking to deregulate even more so those companies can pump even more toxins into the air; meanwhile the population has one of the highest cancer rates in the country. They could put up a few dozen turbines and solve this whole deal, but they'd rather just burn coal all day and all night, who cares if it's killing people every single day. The will of the people has been replaced by the the will of the stockholders.
 

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Those corporate masters were a problem because profits often outweighed public interest, but at least they were Americans, but the problem is even greater now that those corporations are multinationals with no allegiance to the US.
... many of them were directly responsible for the build up of Axis power (at lease germany and italy) and fighting to keep US isolationist and letting US allies get steamrolled
 

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We unite. We stop making a monster out of government and recognize that while flawed, it is still our best option. We demand peace, take funding from the military industrial complex, and use it to better educate our kids. We elevate basic human needs above corporate profits.

What people forget is that Government IS a monster. (i.e. The Leviathan - the US has become the Kingdom of Darkness). Like any monster, it will grow when you feed it. It is fed by individuals giving up their rights. (Money, freedoms, what have you). The size of government has grown astronomically since the onset of the Federal Reserve and other monetary controls as well as the Income Tax. The Federal Government is now the biggest employer in the country (not even counting the military). This is tragic indicator of what is going on in the country.

Every year Congress is in session, they take a little more Freedom from the people. After 240 years, the number of years, individual freedoms have waned - and thus, Government power has increased. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights were setup to limit government. Aside from the Bill of Rights, the Amendments which give more power to the people are the 15th, 19th, 22nd, 25th, 26th. The rest allow more power to the Central Authority.

Another piece of evidence is the part of the GDP that the Government consumes has increased almost every year since WWII. This limits the part of the individual to be part of the Product.

As one poster said, I doubt it is not just awareness, because I think most people are indoctrinated into believing more government is good. Civics classes are not really taught in most schools and has been replaced with cultural sensitivity and whatnot.

Government is, in fact, it is a necessary evil - and therein it being evil, need to be controlled and limited (Thomas Paine). If it is not controlled, then you get the monster. We have not successfully checked the power of government since Nixon was ousted. Politicians are able to break laws and act like some kind of Nobility and are immune to persecution (expressly forbidden in the constitution).
 

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