There just isnt a CB worth the #10 pick...... (1 Viewer)

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I've been doing alot of research on Defensive prospects and I tell ya....There just doesnt seem to be a "can't miss" CB available when we pick.
In the first round, making me want Laurinaitis or Ellis @ #10.......
what I'm thinking:
Malcolm Jenkins -- I wasnt too impressed in the BCS....Lafell torched him a couple times.
he did have the pick with big return, but it was "garbage time". Not
worth a top 20 pick IMO.
Mike Jenkins -- Sort of the dark horse out of the CB prospects. Questions about quality
of opponents, play recognition, and recovery speed loom. Early 2nd
rounder IMO.
Antoine Cason -- this guy is an intriguing prospect....sort of like JAX CB Rashean Mathis.
depending on his workout #s....this could end up being our guy. Some
project him as a FS so let's check that 40 time.....
Terrell Thomas -- good prospect, but #10 is a reach. Projects more in the #20-#32 range.
Aquib Talib -- another good prospect with legit cover skills, but a disgusting reach
at #10. Talib will be a bit raw and not ready to start right away, but
if he's there in the 2nd, I wouldnt hesitate.
All 5 of these guys have big upside, but at #10, I just can't justify taking any of them.
 

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I've been doing alot of research on Defensive prospects and I tell ya....There just doesnt seem to be a "can't miss" CB available when we pick.
In the first round, making me want Laurinaitis or Ellis @ #10.......
what I'm thinking:
Malcolm Jenkins -- I wasnt too impressed in the BCS....Lafell torched him a couple times.
he did have the pick with big return, but it was "garbage time". Not
worth a top 20 pick IMO.
Mike Jenkins -- Sort of the dark horse out of the CB prospects. Questions about quality
of opponents, play recognition, and recovery speed loom. Early 2nd
rounder IMO.
Antoine Cason -- this guy is an intriguing prospect....sort of like JAX CB Rashean Mathis.
depending on his workout #s....this could end up being our guy. Some
project him as a FS so let's check that 40 time.....
Terrell Thomas -- good prospect, but #10 is a reach. Projects more in the #20-#32 range.
Aquib Talib -- another good prospect with legit cover skills, but a disgusting reach
at #10. Talib will be a bit raw and not ready to start right away, but
if he's there in the 2nd, I wouldnt hesitate.
All 5 of these guys have big upside, but at #10, I just can't justify taking any of them.
And what is your analysis on Chevis Jackson Bagouser?
 

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I feel the same way as you brother... I hope the Saints don't draft a CB with the #10 pick. Laurinaitis won't enter the draft this year and I wonder when people are going to stop talking about him on this board... When he declares for the draft thats when we could say we hope the Saints get him I think he's overrated though.
 
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best defensive player, regardless of position...

we can't afford to have another 1st rounder sit all year...
 

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Mel Kiper seems to like Talib at 10, but it is very early

Martin (Middletown CT): Does Kansas' Aqib Talib fall to Dallas at 21 or 22? They need to add depth to the corner spot.

Mel Kiper: If you're looking for someone at the 21, 22 spot, you're not going to see Talib there. He's going to be the first CB taken in this draft. If you're looking for a CB that can also help you in the return game, and you did good with a Troy kid in Demarcus Ware, they can go back to Troy and get Leodis McKelvin. He would make sense as a guy in the 20s. Talib goes in the top 10. He's the first CB drafted
 

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depending what Jr's come out, I'm not convinced at this point the 10th best player in the draft will be a defensive player.
 

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One or two of them are going to light up the scouting combine, you know it.
 

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I've been doing alot of research on Defensive prospects and I tell ya....There just doesnt seem to be a "can't miss" CB available when we pick.
In the first round, making me want Laurinaitis or Ellis @ #10.......
what I'm thinking:
Malcolm Jenkins -- I wasnt too impressed in the BCS....Lafell torched him a couple times.
he did have the pick with big return, but it was "garbage time". Not
worth a top 20 pick IMO.
Mike Jenkins -- Sort of the dark horse out of the CB prospects. Questions about quality
of opponents, play recognition, and recovery speed loom. Early 2nd
rounder IMO.
Antoine Cason -- this guy is an intriguing prospect....sort of like JAX CB Rashean Mathis.
depending on his workout #s....this could end up being our guy. Some
project him as a FS so let's check that 40 time.....
Terrell Thomas -- good prospect, but #10 is a reach. Projects more in the #20-#32 range.
Aquib Talib -- another good prospect with legit cover skills, but a disgusting reach
at #10. Talib will be a bit raw and not ready to start right away, but
if he's there in the 2nd, I wouldnt hesitate.
All 5 of these guys have big upside, but at #10, I just can't justify taking any of them.
LaFell torched Malcolm Jenkins a couple of times? He had two catches for 15 yards and only one of those catches came against Jenkins in a man-zone defense near the goalline.
 

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Jenkins would be the ideal #1 corner to take. While he isn't as flashy as the other corners, He rarely makes a mistake and he doesn't get beat over the top. With his size and speed, he certainly has the most potential of the bunch. He is probably the most avoided corner in this draft. Even LSU avoided him as much as possible. He can also play safety very well. I've rewatched the BCS game and now I realize how scary he is as a DB. LSU didn't even attempt to try to exploit him. Tee game tapes that LSU watched while preparing for the game must tell you something about the guy if they avoided him the whole game. The TD to Lafell can not be put on him. He was in position but the Playcall and the pass was perfect.
 

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I've been doing alot of research on Defensive prospects and I tell ya....There just doesnt seem to be a "can't miss" CB available when we pick.
In the first round, making me want Laurinaitis or Ellis @ #10.......
what I'm thinking:
Malcolm Jenkins -- I wasnt too impressed in the BCS....Lafell torched him a couple times.
he did have the pick with big return, but it was "garbage time". Not
worth a top 20 pick IMO.
Mike Jenkins -- Sort of the dark horse out of the CB prospects. Questions about quality
of opponents, play recognition, and recovery speed loom. Early 2nd
rounder IMO.
Antoine Cason -- this guy is an intriguing prospect....sort of like JAX CB Rashean Mathis.
depending on his workout #s....this could end up being our guy. Some
project him as a FS so let's check that 40 time.....
Terrell Thomas -- good prospect, but #10 is a reach. Projects more in the #20-#32 range.
Aquib Talib -- another good prospect with legit cover skills, but a disgusting reach
at #10. Talib will be a bit raw and not ready to start right away, but
if he's there in the 2nd, I wouldnt hesitate.
All 5 of these guys have big upside, but at #10, I just can't justify taking any of them.
Agree 100%
 

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If you want a CB, Jenkins is the guy. After seeing him in the BCS game I think its obvious. CB's are one of the most sought after positions in the NFL and one of the highest paid. A CB such as Jenkins is not a reach at 10. Not even close to a reach

But the combine can really shake things up. We'll just have to see.
 

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LaFell torched Malcolm Jenkins a couple of times? He had two catches for 15 yards and only one of those catches came against Jenkins in a man-zone defense near the goalline.
Jenkins did get torched at least a couple times.....on the LaFell TD, and again right before the Early Doucett TD....and on the 3rd qt, with 9:22 left, when LSU had 2nd & 1 on the OSU 20 yds line, Charles Scott, #32 got the ball on an inside screen, and broke to his left, Jenkins took a bad angle and missed an easy tackle, resulting in a big play which put LSU on the 4 yds line. Deucett scored his TD on the very next play Jenkins did not have a particulary good game, the INT Jenkins had, was a bad move on the LSU WR part.....
 

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Jenkins did get torched at least a couple times.....on the LaFell TD, and again right before the Early Doucett TD....and on the 3rd qt, with 9:22 left, when LSU had 2nd & 1 on the OSU 20 yds line, Charles Scott, #32 got the ball on an inside screen, and broke to his left, Jenkins took a bad angle and missed an easy tackle, resulting in a big play which put LSU on the 4 yds line. Deucett scored his TD on the very next play Jenkins did not have a particulary good game, the INT Jenkins had, was a bad move on the LSU WR part.....
So giving up a TD in a goaline package and missing a tackle (I'll take your word for it) means he didn't have a good game? He shut Lafell down and LSU didn't dare go to his side of the field most of the night. Against the best team in college football (my apologizes USC homers) he played an overall very nice game.
 

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Jenkins did get torched at least a couple times.....on the LaFell TD, and again right before the Early Doucett TD....and on the 3rd qt, with 9:22 left, when LSU had 2nd & 1 on the OSU 20 yds line, Charles Scott, #32 got the ball on an inside screen, and broke to his left, Jenkins took a bad angle and missed an easy tackle, resulting in a big play which put LSU on the 4 yds line. Deucett scored his TD on the very next play Jenkins did not have a particulary good game, the INT Jenkins had, was a bad move on the LSU WR part.....
The short TD to LaFell and a 16 yard gain means he got torched? Have we all forgotten the big plays Jason David gave up. I would KILL to see Jason David get torched for only a 10 yard (or however long it was) TD and a 16 yard gain!

And for all the talk about Chevis Jackson, he sure did get smacked to the ground by a Beanie Wells stiffarm.

Sure Jenkins didn't have a perfect game, but it wasn't horrible either and I failed to see him get "torched" as some people have said. He got beat, but not torched. And getting beat is a step up from what we Saints fans had to watch this year. I'm not gonna comment on any of these guys because only those who have seen their entire body of work are qualified to make a credible comment.
 

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