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Like I said, if you can provide verifiable proof, I'll believe you. But you are only giving me recursive "proof". And recursive "proof" doesn't cut it.What are we doing here System? Can anything I say change your mind? You have a thought process that is your belief is based largely on eye-proof. You must see it to believe it, or else any source that tells you otherwise could be biased in some way. I can’t live my life like that.
No.There are thousands of things you believe without verifiable proof.
If you tell me of something that doesn't defy logic or the laws of physics, I'll believe you. But, if you tell me of anything that defies logic or the laws of physics, I will not believe you.
If you told me there once lived a man named Jesus who started the Christian movement, I'd believe you.
But when you tell me that a man named Jesus, born to a virgin woman - who remained a virgin after the birth - magically impregnated by an angel on behalf of a god, who BTW happens to be that god incarnated, who walked around the ME raising the dead, curing deceases, walking on water, who went through the legal system of the time, died and resurrected, and no one wrote about him while he was alive, well, you are going to need some very substantial proof of that.
On a side note, so do Hindus, as the story of Jesus sounds a lot like the story of Krishna... and Krishna predates Jesus.
Sure, since the dawn of time, people have told stories from generation to generation, but they also drew stuff on cave walls to keep their stories straight. And even then, stories got so distorted, legends and myths were created. You telling me that, by word of mouth, the Christian stories passed 100% accurately from generation to generation through decades, you have to see why anyone, at the very least, would be skeptical of such premise, and cannot readily accept it as truth.The oral tradition that I gave you is 100% factual.
I am always willing to learn, but I am not willing to accept something on faith, especially those things that defy logic and the laws of physics. And again, recursive proof doesn't cut it. Recursive proof is basically saying "trust me".But you can’t make sense of it so you don’t believe it. I’ve lended some of that proof for what I believe, but it isn’t good enough for you. And there isn’t evidence I could provide that would do that for you. You are simply unwilling, and that is perfectly alright. It’s not my place to judge you or anyone else for it. You’ll work it out in the way you see fit- and that’s ok.
It's not a question about willing to believe. Like I said, I am willing to learn, that is why I engage in this type of discussion.At the end of the day, a God that judges you for your actions when no one is looking isn’t a God you’re willing to believe in- and that’s most people. There is simply too much to lose.
And it is not just the one god, it is any of the other 3000-some gods .
And as for people wanting to believe, like I said to Marsha some pages ago... if you want to believe, if believing in this entity makes you happy and a better person, do not try to reason through it, do not try to make sense of it, don't even try to excuse it. Just believe on faith. That, and don't ever read anything I post about religion.