Titanic submersible es morte (2 Viewers)

[Madmarsha]

Man, I love 60 Minutes Australia

 

[Bill]

Man, I love 60 Minutes Australia

A very powerful story that explains how the dreams of some can turn into a nightmare (for many).

When desires to push boundaries involve 'life & death' risks, it's sobering how many people perish before someone learns how to do it correctly and safely. Example: In the race to advance aircraft design in the early days of aviation, it often took a dead test pilot to learn what was wrong with the design. Thankfully with modern computer aided design and simulations, potentially dangerous characteristics of a new experimental concept can be known even before construction of a prototype begins.

It seems that many knew this OceanGate submersible was operating at the very limit of its design capability. Exceeding that limit seemed almost inevitable according to Cameron. And you can tell that he's still angry about the results of OceanGate's 'miscalculations'.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The family of a French explorer who died in a submersible implosion has filed a more than $50 million lawsuit, saying the crew experienced “terror and mental anguish” before the disaster and accusing the sub’s operator of gross negligence.

Paul-Henri Nargeolet was among five people who died when the Titan submersible imploded during a voyage to the famed Titanic wreck site in the North Atlantic in June 2023. No one survived the trip aboard the experimental submersible owned by OceanGate, a company in Washington state that has since suspended operations.

Known as “Mr. Titanic,” Nargeolet participated in 37 dives to the Titanic site, the most of any diver in the world, according to the lawsuit. He was regarded as one of the world’s most knowledgeable people about the famous wreck. Attorneys for his estate said in an emailed statement that the “doomed submersible” had a “troubled history,” and that OceanGate failed to disclose key facts about the vessel and its durability.



According to the lawsuit, the Titan “dropped weights” about 90 minutes into its dive, indicating the team had aborted or attempted to abort the dive.

“While the exact cause of failure may never be determined, experts agree that the Titan’s crew would have realized exactly what was happening,” the lawsuit states. “Common sense dictates that the crew were well aware they were going to die, before dying.”

The lawsuit goes on to say: “The crew may well have heard the carbon fiber’s crackling noise grow more intense as the weight of the water pressed on Titan’s hull. The crew lost communications and perhaps power as well. By experts’ reckoning, they would have continued to descend, in full knowledge of the vessel’s irreversible failures, experiencing terror and mental anguish prior to the Titan ultimately imploding.”…….

Crew of Titan sub knew they were going to die before implosion, according to more than $50M lawsuit

The family of a French explorer who died in a submersible implosion has filed a more than $50 million lawsuit, saying the crew experienced “terror and mental anguish” before the disaster and accusing the sub’s operator of gross negligence.

apnews.com

 

[superchuck500]

The family of a French explorer who died in a submersible implosion has filed a more than $50 million lawsuit, saying the crew experienced “terror and mental anguish” before the disaster and accusing the sub’s operator of gross negligence.

Paul-Henri Nargeolet was among five people who died when the Titan submersible imploded during a voyage to the famed Titanic wreck site in the North Atlantic in June 2023. No one survived the trip aboard the experimental submersible owned by OceanGate, a company in Washington state that has since suspended operations.

Known as “Mr. Titanic,” Nargeolet participated in 37 dives to the Titanic site, the most of any diver in the world, according to the lawsuit. He was regarded as one of the world’s most knowledgeable people about the famous wreck. Attorneys for his estate said in an emailed statement that the “doomed submersible” had a “troubled history,” and that OceanGate failed to disclose key facts about the vessel and its durability.



According to the lawsuit, the Titan “dropped weights” about 90 minutes into its dive, indicating the team had aborted or attempted to abort the dive.

“While the exact cause of failure may never be determined, experts agree that the Titan’s crew would have realized exactly what was happening,” the lawsuit states. “Common sense dictates that the crew were well aware they were going to die, before dying.”

The lawsuit goes on to say: “The crew may well have heard the carbon fiber’s crackling noise grow more intense as the weight of the water pressed on Titan’s hull. The crew lost communications and perhaps power as well. By experts’ reckoning, they would have continued to descend, in full knowledge of the vessel’s irreversible failures, experiencing terror and mental anguish prior to the Titan ultimately imploding.”…….

Crew of Titan sub knew they were going to die before implosion, according to more than $50M lawsuit

The family of a French explorer who died in a submersible implosion has filed a more than $50 million lawsuit, saying the crew experienced “terror and mental anguish” before the disaster and accusing the sub’s operator of gross negligence.

apnews.com

I would be absolutely shocked if there wasn't a broad, and "water tight" (ahem) release and waiver of claims in this.

Then again, the guy was pretty bold - perhaps he didn't think he needed one.

 

[saintmdterps]

10 to 1 odds not a soul on this board would ever have set foot in that sub. We’d have taken one look and said “no ******* way. This thing is a piece of crap”

The reason is that we know the world is a dangerous place. Some of us have been mugged, robbed, etc., we are used to being on high alert regarding our children. Billionaires have been coddled. They live in gated communities, someone does their shopping, cooks for them, drives them around. They have nannies. They have little to no awareness how dangerous the environment can be.

None of this means they deserved to die like that, it’s just the probability of their death was higher due to their lack of interaction with the more dangerous aspects of human existence

 

[Taurus]

10 to 1 odds not a soul on this board would ever have set foot in that sub. We’d have taken one look and said “no ******* way. This thing is a piece of crap”

The reason is that we know the world is a dangerous place. Some of us have been mugged, robbed, etc., we are used to being on high alert regarding our children. Billionaires have been coddled. They live in gated communities, someone does their shopping, cooks for them, drives them around. They have nannies. They have little to no awareness how dangerous the environment can be.

None of this means they deserved to die like that, it’s just the probability of their death was higher due to their lack of interaction with the more dangerous aspects of human existence

Mr Nargeolet was a lifelong diver. He'd have had safety ingrained into his soul. The thing had survived multiple dives and the type of flaw that doomed it wouldn't be visible to the naked eye.

 

[superchuck500]

The family of a French explorer who died in a submersible implosion has filed a more than $50 million lawsuit, saying the crew experienced “terror and mental anguish” before the disaster and accusing the sub’s operator of gross negligence.

Paul-Henri Nargeolet was among five people who died when the Titan submersible imploded during a voyage to the famed Titanic wreck site in the North Atlantic in June 2023. No one survived the trip aboard the experimental submersible owned by OceanGate, a company in Washington state that has since suspended operations.

Known as “Mr. Titanic,” Nargeolet participated in 37 dives to the Titanic site, the most of any diver in the world, according to the lawsuit. He was regarded as one of the world’s most knowledgeable people about the famous wreck. Attorneys for his estate said in an emailed statement that the “doomed submersible” had a “troubled history,” and that OceanGate failed to disclose key facts about the vessel and its durability.



According to the lawsuit, the Titan “dropped weights” about 90 minutes into its dive, indicating the team had aborted or attempted to abort the dive.

“While the exact cause of failure may never be determined, experts agree that the Titan’s crew would have realized exactly what was happening,” the lawsuit states. “Common sense dictates that the crew were well aware they were going to die, before dying.”

The lawsuit goes on to say: “The crew may well have heard the carbon fiber’s crackling noise grow more intense as the weight of the water pressed on Titan’s hull. The crew lost communications and perhaps power as well. By experts’ reckoning, they would have continued to descend, in full knowledge of the vessel’s irreversible failures, experiencing terror and mental anguish prior to the Titan ultimately imploding.”…….

Crew of Titan sub knew they were going to die before implosion, according to more than $50M lawsuit

The family of a French explorer who died in a submersible implosion has filed a more than $50 million lawsuit, saying the crew experienced “terror and mental anguish” before the disaster and accusing the sub’s operator of gross negligence.

apnews.com

“While the exact cause of failure may never be determined, experts agree that the Titan’s crew would have realized exactly what was happening,” - the lawsuit says.

That’s a quite a way to phrase a claim that requires a showing of negligence, at minimum. You don’t get money simply because you were terrified. And stating right in the lawsuit that “we may never know what happened!” is a odd choice.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The first picture of the Titan submersible following its deadly June 2023 implosion was revealed on Monday by the US Coast Guard as authorities opened a public hearing into the deaths of five people onboard.

The accident’s victims were killed when intense ocean pressure caused the Titan to collapse in on itself off the coast of Newfoundland, Canada. They were the British explorer Hamish Harding; the British Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman; Stockton Rush, the chief executive officer of OceanGate, the American company that owned the Titan; and the French diver Paul-Henri Nargeolet.

Monday’s hearing revealed new details about the implosion of the Titan and its parent company.

The newly released image provided most of the public its first glimpse of the Titan’s broken tail cone on the floor of the Atlantic Ocean. Fragments of the vessel are also visible on the ocean floor – debris that recovery crews found in the wake of the implosion...............

First picture of wreckage of Titan sub after implosion revealed at hearing

Image shows broken tail cone on floor of Atlantic in hearing into deaths of five people onboard OceanGate vessel

www.theguardian.com

 

[Madmarsha]

The first picture of the Titan submersible following its deadly June 2023 implosion was revealed on Monday by the US Coast Guard as authorities opened a public hearing into the deaths of five people onboard.

The accident’s victims were killed when intense ocean pressure caused the Titan to collapse in on itself off the coast of Newfoundland, Canada. They were the British explorer Hamish Harding; the British Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman; Stockton Rush, the chief executive officer of OceanGate, the American company that owned the Titan; and the French diver Paul-Henri Nargeolet.

Monday’s hearing revealed new details about the implosion of the Titan and its parent company.

The newly released image provided most of the public its first glimpse of the Titan’s broken tail cone on the floor of the Atlantic Ocean. Fragments of the vessel are also visible on the ocean floor – debris that recovery crews found in the wake of the implosion...............

First picture of wreckage of Titan sub after implosion revealed at hearing

Image shows broken tail cone on floor of Atlantic in hearing into deaths of five people onboard OceanGate vessel

www.theguardian.com

I never knew they found anything.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I never knew they found anything.

Just revealed today

More left than I thought

I would have assumed it imploded down to the size of a can of tuna

 

[Bleu Raeder]

I would have assumed it imploded down to the size of a can of tuna

The "bell" or "pressure chamber" would have been the part to be squashed. Other parts may or may not be affected by the pressure.

 

[TheRealJRad]

So would the "passenger" area have just insta-crushed and more or less shot that tail section off or something? I'm surprised that big a chunk is still intact, I would have thought losing half your frame would just *poof* it all

So wild to think of

 

[Bleu Raeder]

So would the "passenger" area have just insta-crushed and more or less shot that tail section off or something? I'm surprised that big a chunk is still intact, I would have thought losing half your frame would just *poof* it all

So wild to think of

Pretty much. Anything holding pressure, like the cabin, would've "insta-crushed". All the other components did not have pockets of air or pressure that would've been crushable but the rapid descent of those parts to the ocean floor likely caused some damage to them. I heard this morning that the forward portal was only designed for depths of 3000 feet, not the ~13000 feet where the Titanic lay.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The final moments of the doomed Titan submersible can be heard in new audio released by the US Coast Guard.

A thunderous roar can be heard as the Titan sub implodes, killing all five people on board.

The audio was captured from a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration device about 900 miles from where the sub dropped off the radar in Newfoundland.

All five crew members died as a result of the implosion: founder Stockton Rush, 61, French explorer Paul Henri Nargeolet, 77, British explorer Hamish Harding, 58, UK-based Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood, 48 and his 19-year-old son Suleman.…..

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Titan submarine’s final moments revealed as new audio captures moment of implosion​