N/S Tyreek Hill arrested for traffic violation by stadium in Miami on gameday (Hill played) [Reckless driving & seatbelt charges dismissed] (1 Viewer)

[2009ring]

keep your window down, put your window down. if you don't put your window down I'm gonna take you out of the car.
He then gets taken out of the car. then a 3rd party tries to get involved. non of that will end well.

stop watching the Tic Toc lawyers!

The average Tik Tok lawyer has forgotten more about the law than most police officers know. If it wasn't for Tik Tok lawyers, the Sonya Massey case may never have come to light.

Now, some of these camera-jockeys go running around looking for trouble in order to get social media views too. Also clowns. But if the police actually knew the law and followed it, these camera-jockey's wouldn't have an audience because things like this wouldn't happen every Thursday and every other Sunday.

 

[Consigliere]

Here is an intellectual/legal question. In our Fantasy League, we give a $5 prize to the owner of the player who is First Arrested (the "Eugene Robinson Award"). Nobody has ever won it before a Week One game, so this would be a record. The thing is: was that an "arrest" or a "stop" under Florida law? I do not hear the police communicating an intent to "arrest" (requirement #3 below) but I throw this out to the Board for opinions...?

What Legally Constitutes an Arrest in Florida?

An arrest always involves restricting someone’s physical freedom and taking them into custody. But not every police interaction rises to the level of an arrest. There are three tiers of police-citizen encounters:

- Casual communication with no coercion or detention.
- Brief investigative stops supported by reasonable suspicion of a crime.
- Full arrests supported by probable cause.

Only the third tier constitutes an actual arrest. There must be probable cause to believe you committed a crime. The police must also fulfill four specific elements:

● They must intend to arrest you under real or pretended authority.
● They must physically or constructively seize you and detain you.
● They must communicate their intent to arrest you.
● You must understand you are being arrested.

If any of these elements are missing, there is no valid arrest. For example, if officers just stop your car without expressing intent to arrest you, that doesn’t qualify as an arrest.

 

[2009ring]

Here is an intellectual/legal question. In our Fantasy League, we give a $5 prize to the owner of the player who is First Arrested (the "Eugene Robinson Award"). Nobody has ever won it before a Week One game, so this would be a record. The thing is: was that an "arrest" or a "stop" under Florida law? I do not hear the police communicating an intent to "arrest" (requirement #3 below) but I throw this out to the Board for opinions...?

What Legally Constitutes an Arrest in Florida?

An arrest always involves restricting someone’s physical freedom and taking them into custody. But not every police interaction rises to the level of an arrest. There are three tiers of police-citizen encounters:

- Casual communication with no coercion or detention.
- Brief investigative stops supported by reasonable suspicion of a crime.
- Full arrests supported by probable cause.

Only the third tier constitutes an actual arrest. There must be probable cause to believe you committed a crime. The police must also fulfill four specific elements:

● They must intend to arrest you under real or pretended authority.
● They must physically or constructively seize you and detain you.
● They must communicate their intent to arrest you.
● You must understand you are being arrested.

If any of these elements are missing, there is no valid arrest. For example, if officers just stop your car without expressing intent to arrest you, that doesn’t qualify as an arrest.

And most importantly, in order to detain you (the 2nd tier) they must have reasonable articulable suspicion that you either have, are, or are about to commit a specific crime. "You look suspicious" is not a crime and does not constitute RAS.

 

[Bishop]

"We thought we heard shots or smelled weed" will usually suffice...

 

[Treybad]

You know keep getting a feeling most are looking for the Police to be wrong....
Police are human beings not robots....
Hill just treats the police with respect all this is reduced to handshakes and autographs....

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

You know keep getting a feeling most are looking for the Police to be wrong....
Police are human beings not robots....
Hill just treats the police with respect all this is reduced to handshakes and autographs....

When did these police show any respect to that civilian?

 

[Saint KayBee]

You know keep getting a feeling most are looking for the Police to be wrong....
Police are human beings not robots....
Hill just treats the police with respect all this is reduced to handshakes and autographs....

People are looking for the ones doing a job to act like professionals and they tend to struggle significantly with that.

 

[Madmarsha]

Here is an intellectual/legal question. In our Fantasy League, we give a $5 prize to the owner of the player who is First Arrested (the "Eugene Robinson Award"). Nobody has ever won it before a Week One game, so this would be a record. The thing is: was that an "arrest" or a "stop" under Florida law? I do not hear the police communicating an intent to "arrest" (requirement #3 below) but I throw this out to the Board for opinions...?

What Legally Constitutes an Arrest in Florida?

An arrest always involves restricting someone’s physical freedom and taking them into custody. But not every police interaction rises to the level of an arrest. There are three tiers of police-citizen encounters:

- Casual communication with no coercion or detention.
- Brief investigative stops supported by reasonable suspicion of a crime.
- Full arrests supported by probable cause.

Only the third tier constitutes an actual arrest. There must be probable cause to believe you committed a crime. The police must also fulfill four specific elements:

● They must intend to arrest you under real or pretended authority.
● They must physically or constructively seize you and detain you.
● They must communicate their intent to arrest you.
● You must understand you are being arrested.

If any of these elements are missing, there is no valid arrest. For example, if officers just stop your car without expressing intent to arrest you, that doesn’t qualify as an arrest.

He was cuffed. That'd be "good enough" for me.

 

[efil4stnias]

Am i the only one that thought, for a split second, when he kept saying "get Drew on the phone" - "what Drew ( Brees) gonna do for you?"

Obviously he meant Rosehaus. lol.

 

[Saintstigerking]

He rolled up his window to keep public eyes off of him. Every citizen's video of the incident starts at some point after he is removed from the car, because that's when people realized "that's Tyreek Hill being detained"

Tell me again where is says you can roll up your window that is blacked out when you get pulled over just so the public can’t see you? Nope just other punk who thinks rules don’t apply to him.

 

[Saintstigerking]

No wonder there’s so many people having problems with the police. Ignorance is everywhere. How hard is it to listen?

 

[Saint KayBee]

Tell me again where is says you can roll up your window that is blacked out when you get pulled over just so the public can’t see you? Nope just other punk who thinks rules don’t apply to him.

1) you don't have to namecall

2) he's stated exactly that, plainly

3) they had his license and registration

4) they know it's NFL game day

 

[Madmarsha]

Am i the only one that thought, for a split second, when he kept saying "get Drew on the phone" - "what Drew ( Brees) gonna do for you?"

Obviously he meant Rosehaus. lol.

No. You are not. In fact, I just got it [checks imaginary watch] about 3 seconds ago.

 

[Det. Brees]

Tell me again where is says you can roll up your window that is blacked out when you get pulled over just so the public can’t see you? Nope just other punk who thinks rules don’t apply to him.

Keeping a window with a dark tint rolled down is a reasonable demand. The Supreme Court ruling that they keep speaking of does not include the officer safety issue that your are describing. there is already precedence on requiring the driver of a car to roll down a window or windows that have dark tinted windows.

 

[RJS]

Lousy situation but I commend the Miami-Dade Police Dept for seemingly being pretty transparent right from the get go.