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I didn’t know this about the Kurds. Does membership have to be unanimous?

Tayyip Erdogan is a problem. Having him as an ally is unsettling. His use of the word vermin in reference to the 11 million Kurds living in Turkey, his banning of their language, etc.

His regime is athema to what we claim to stand for... yet he is an ally of importance and sway.

Just like MBS, Erdogan occupies the same space as Putin. Building the strength of one, to thwart another, seems foolish... but we find ourselves locked in to that position.
 

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Tayyip Erdogan is a problem. Having him as an ally is unsettling. His use of the word vermin in reference to the 11 million Kurds living in Turkey, his banning of their language, etc.

His regime is athema to what we claim to stand for... yet he is an ally of importance and sway.

Just like MBS, Erdogan occupies the same space as Putin. Building the strength of one, to thwart another, seems foolish... but we find ourselves locked in to that position.
 

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Tayyip Erdogan is a problem. Having him as an ally is unsettling. His use of the word vermin in reference to the 11 million Kurds living in Turkey, his banning of their language, etc.

His regime is athema to what we claim to stand for... yet he is an ally of importance and sway.

Just like MBS, Erdogan occupies the same space as Putin. Building the strength of one, to thwart another, seems foolish... but we find ourselves locked in to that position.

The fact that Turkey is in NATO should give pause to anyone who wants to expand NATO willy nilly. You don't get to kick them out when they elect a nutball. They act a fool and get attacked for some reason, we're bound to defend them.
 

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I wonder if China would make a move on Vladivostok. It seems like a couple years ago they said it was theirs historically.
Im sure some Vladivostok sepratists are gearing up in Heilongjiang.

Most of eastern Russia is used by Moscow as a source of labor, resources, and cannon fodder. The ethno-nationalist sentiment Putin has stirred up over the years leaves the people living there as second class citizens at best.
 

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If that caption is to be believed that happened ten miles into Russia. That would be Ukrainians shelling that village from across the border.

That would also indicate that Ukrainian forces have taken back a lot more territory north of Kharkiv than most of the mapper folks have been indicating.
 

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If that caption is to be believed that happened ten miles into Russia. That would be Ukrainians shelling that village from across the border.

That would also indicate that Ukrainian forces have taken back a lot more territory north of Kharkiv than most of the mapper folks have been indicating.
Exactly what he shows on this map, UKR is making some big inroads....

 

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Exactly what he shows on this map, UKR is making some big inroads....


The guy says he doesn't know why they would shell a village across the border like that. I can see a reason why. The reason would be to prevent the Russian army from pulling troops out of that area and moving them into the Donbas area.

What I noticed in the two seconds before the girl stopped filming and started running to find mommy was that it was a tight pattern that indicates that the shots were well aimed, and aimed to hit an empty field and cause much concern, but not to damage villager houses, or to kill. The shell size was very small. Surprisingly small for a modern conflict.

I did some looking up and found that there are some old small D-44 85 mm guns in that area. The Ukrainians would have captured some of them from the Donbas separatists over the years because they are the old guns from storage that the Russians have been giving them since 2014.

They would just barely have the range to reach that village from the border, and only if they were placed right on the border. The small explosions I saw would be consistent with that approximately 3 inch size shell. Those were not shells from our big M777 155 mm (6 inch) guns, the 155 shells they use carry about four times that amount of explosive in the shell, and would have more than twice the range.

I would think that was a "shot over the bow" demonstration to the Russian using their own guns back at them to force them to keep those retreating troops there to defend their border, and not send them to the southeast where the Russians are being hard pressed to make headway. To send them where the Russians lost so many attempting that river crossing yesterday.

The Russians know that the Ukrainians have M777 155 mm guns in that area, if the Russians leave that border area undefended the Ukrainians could easily could set their big guns on the border and reach all the way into Belgorod which is a major logistical supply point for the Russians. With the rocket assist shells they have they could even reach beyond Belgorod.
 

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If that caption is to be believed that happened ten miles into Russia. That would be Ukrainians shelling that village from across the border.

That would also indicate that Ukrainian forces have taken back a lot more territory north of Kharkiv than most of the mapper folks have been indicating.
Oh.
 

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