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[baarbogast]

The Foreign Ministry of Russia Threatens Poland with Nuclear Strike

DENYS KARLOVSKYI - SUNDAY, 12 JUNE 2022, 15:43 p.m. The Head of the State Duma of the Russian Federation, Viacheslav Volodin, threatens that if the suggestion by the former Foreign Minister of Poland Radoslaw Sikorski to provide Ukraine with nuclear weapons is fulfilled, then the possible...

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I think several unloaded in Kyiv and publicly broadcast would call their bluff.

 

[baarbogast]

German leader rules out nuclear option to fill energy gaps

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said Wednesday that his government remains committed to phasing out nuclear power despite concerns about rising energy prices and possible future shortages due to Russia's war in Ukraine. Germany shut down half of its six nuclear plants in December and the...

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I don't understand Germany. They could ween themselves off Russian oil and gas, but Scholz sees nothing.

 

[Crzycjunx76]

German leader rules out nuclear option to fill energy gaps

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said Wednesday that his government remains committed to phasing out nuclear power despite concerns about rising energy prices and possible future shortages due to Russia's war in Ukraine. Germany shut down half of its six nuclear plants in December and the...

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I don't understand Germany. They could ween themselves off Russian oil and gas, but Scholz sees nothing.

Correct me if I am wrong, but dont they have a plan in place to replace their oil and gas dependencies within 9-12 months? I believe it was mentioned way up thread.

 

[baarbogast]

Correct me if I am wrong, but dont they have a plan in place to replace their oil and gas dependencies within 9-12 months? I believe it was mentioned way up thread.

It was mentioned in the article. The problem is all the billions going to Russia. My belief is that Germany is an accomplice even if unintentional

 

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[DCSaints_Fan]

I wonder why the US doesn’t send more AFVs to Ukraine. We have an a&$ ton of M1A1s just sitting in storage

 

[baarbogast]

I wonder why the US doesn’t send more AFVs to Ukraine. We have an a&$ ton of M1A1s just sitting in storage

Much of that has to do with the amount of training needed. We could give them some we used in the 91 Gulf War, Just take out the sensitive equipment. The other thing is they use uranium depleted shells, think of being in an x'ray both 23 hours a day for months on end. There were a lot of babies born in the 90's with all kinds of health issues because of that.

 

[baarbogast]

The dog looks exactly like my Jack Russel

 

[baarbogast]

 

[DCSaints_Fan]

Much of that has to do with the amount of training needed. We could give them some we used in the 91 Gulf War, Just take out the sensitive equipment. The other thing is they use uranium depleted shells, think of being in an x'ray both 23 hours a day for months on end. There were a lot of babies born in the 90's with all kinds of health issues because of that.

The training argument was certainly true early in the war, however as this looks to be a long war, this argument has decreasing validity. The US Army tank school is 15 weeks. https://www.thebalancecareers.com/19k-m1-armor-crewman-3345947

And that is starting from zero (beyond basic training) A Ukrainian tanker might be able to cut that down to 4 weeks or less, even a green recruit on crash course might be able to do 8-10 weeks.

DU rounds are just one type the M1A1 uses, and even then I doubt it would stop Ukraine from using the M1A1 if offered.

 

[Crzycjunx76]

I wonder why the US doesn’t send more AFVs to Ukraine. We have an a&$ ton of M1A1s just sitting in storage

Bradleys.... mountians of them. They seem more theatre approate too.

 

[baarbogast]

 

[baarbogast]

The training argument was certainly true early in the war, however as this looks to be a long war, this argument has decreasing validity. The US Army tank school is 15 weeks. https://www.thebalancecareers.com/19k-m1-armor-crewman-3345947

And that is starting from zero (beyond basic training) A Ukrainian tanker might be able to cut that down to 4 weeks or less, even a green recruit on crash course might be able to do 8-10 weeks.

DU rounds are just one type the M1A1 uses, and even then I doubt it would stop Ukraine from using the M1A1 if offered.

I have no doubt that Ukraine would take them. If we have non-nuke waste shells that will work, send them.

I agree sending Bradley’s would help.

A couple things I wonder about:

How long would it take to learn an older F-16 jet?

Do we (NATO) have any plane launch anti-ship missiles (Exocets come to mind)?

Do we have cruise missiles that may be obsolete to give them?

 

[Tapxe]

The training argument was certainly true early in the war, however as this looks to be a long war, this argument has decreasing validity. The US Army tank school is 15 weeks. https://www.thebalancecareers.com/19k-m1-armor-crewman-3345947

And that is starting from zero (beyond basic training) A Ukrainian tanker might be able to cut that down to 4 weeks or less, even a green recruit on crash course might be able to do 8-10 weeks.

DU rounds are just one type the M1A1 uses, and even then I doubt it would stop Ukraine from using the M1A1 if offered.

I believe someone mentioned operational costs and maintenance needs for the M1A1 as being a contributing factor.

 

[baarbogast]

He says the water is low enough for infantry to cross. Is there a way to get generators and cables into the area and electrocute the troops? Even if I they are stunned, some will drown and the rest will be slowed.