saintmdterps
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The US has taken its lumps, and rightfully so, on may occasions when it has meddled in the affairs of other nations. However, this is a case of "meddling" This is a case of intervening on behalf of a country that has asked the US to do so in no uncertain terms to help it fend of an invasion by a neighboring country that is ruled by a psychopath.I don’t want to be snarky because I do believe you’re coming from a sincere place…but perhaps you should have gone to class because you’re kinda talking out of both sides of your mouth and arguing illogically.
So above you say “I don’t know if the West should stay out of it….” but in an earlier post you said:
”I do not pretend to know any good solution except I would like those who govern me to stay out of it.…This territory, half a world away, is not our business and I hope the voters elect someone who will say "STOP!"”
I absolutely HATE playing “gotcha” games here but you must know that what’s happening in Ukraine is really serious business and you’re coming here and stating a position diametrically opposed to many very intelligent posters here — an opinion that you assert is based in philosophy thus presuming consistency and logic — but then you argue inconsistent positions in different posts, play fast and loose with history to imply moral equivalency, and conflate importantly distinct concepts (like “blame” with “errors in judgment based on imperfect information“).
I honestly do believe your sincerity on this subject and can respect that you have a different opinion — sincerely-held and lived pacifism rightly earns respect.
But, similarly, you simply must recognize from the pages and pages of comments here the strong emotional connection others have regarding what’s happening over there. And I think that requires you to bring a bit more logic and consistency to your argument than you have thus far.
The US can and should intervene here. In 1939 when one country ruled by a psychopath invaded a neighboring country it precipitated a war killing 70 million people. Stop Putin here in Ukraine, and like any bully given a bloody nose, he'll think twice before he tries to push around another neighbor. Don't stop him here and he's only encouraged.