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Wow people are really soft these days
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Swimmer was never told that no more Pete updates allowed. Whether or not he posts them in the future is up to him. This is about the posting behavior of some of the members subsequent to (and even prior to) Underhill's tweet, and keeping things from getting even more out of hand.
I think that many members feel the same way regarding what they come away with from the Pete posts and whether or not they believe that what is stated are true. There are a variety of opinions on why people like or dislike the Pete posts depending on the individual reading them. They don't bother me, and personally I find a lot of what is posted in those threads entertaining, and certainly don't want to get in the way of members having fun.
We don't really care for the opinions of known drama queens that often react to anything controversial by defaulting to the most sensationalist assumption that they can conjure up to subsequently fans the flames in favor of their own positions. So if that is what you are stating, you are correct.
Keep in mind that you can't see the posts that we have deleted, but I can. From what I have seen thus far, there was plenty of attacking of both Underhill as well as Swimmer in a manner that is not acceptable per our posting guidelines, and when I get done with this post I will go through the closed thread and delete any remaining posts that I find violates our rules. Then I will open it back up.
Speaking of sensationalism... God status on SR? Really?
Look! I have respect for both you and Underhill, but the responses between factions within the thread after (and even prior) to Underhill's twitter post had gotten out of hand, and that precipitated moderation. How do you know that I am not opening that thread back up? I fully intend to do so. That is my decision to make.
Last night Dan in Lafayette called and told me that due to the significant amount of rule violating posts he would likely lock the thread and asked me to look it over when I get a chance. I have been really busy of late so I am slow at getting around to tending to SR business. My intent is to clean up the thread and unlock it after I am done here with dealing with the fallout in THIS thread. Dan also told me that he was going to send you a PM that I may not agree with. I see that he did, and also that you aren't happy with it. I can see it reading between the lines of your posts on this thread today. What is being discussed privately between you and Dan otherwise is between you two and not representative of my feelings on the subject.
Understand that when something really controversial and as touchy as this whole Underhill/Pete thing comes up here where there is uncertainty on how to handle it, the default is to wait for Andrus to handle it. Just as some members pick one side of an issue and some the other, it's the same way with the staff. So better that whatever happens falls on my shoulders, and I accept that. Dan is my right hand man here, and he took some action. But he is leaving further and final action at my discretion.
Who is "they"? I never said anything about Underhill doing anything for SR. I only stated that he was the best and most credible current beat writer that I know.
Let's not turn an individual exchange between you and another staff member that did not include anything that I stated into a "they" thing, and be careful about making such statements and characterizations that can easily be interpreted as misleading. Your posts today in this thread have the appearance that there might be some clever postulating going on within them, so let me just state that I don't care who backs who, I care about the behavior of all of those involved as well as this site's credibility. I speak for myself. Let's not conflate what any other staffer states with my own, and then present it as "they", specifically when "they" includes me.
The bottom line is that this entire uprising over a tweet is unfortunate. To me it was a lot to do with nothing, and petty. But now it's morphed into something else.
Yes! I know that you care, and appreciate your efforts, and this wasn't business in a monetary regard. The board didn't need money last year, my daughter and her children did, which is why I skipped having an SR fundraiser in 2019. To my recollection, SR has never received a dime from Underhill, nor would that matter. Everything I do here is about the rules, keeping to a standard with as much consistency as possible, and maintaining credibility. In 23 years, that has never changed. To the dismay of several former members, as well as friends that I have lost over the years, right and wrong matters more to me than financial contributions, and even friendships.
Back to the members... Let me short cut this with some of the conspiracy theorists out there, because I could quote posts and respond to what I am reading all night. I can say things, but some might not believe it, and being that I don't want any more words being put in my mouth, here is a little transparency for you all. The following is the PM that I sent to Swimmer yesterday, and it is the only PM that I have sent to him regarding this subject, with no redactions or changes other than I blotted out Swimmer's actual name. I don't think there is any content that Swimmer would find embarrassing within it, so in order to shut down such theories and misinformation and to back my points, as well as in some ways Swimmer's, here it is:
No, He isn’t....Though he’s not employed by the Saints, he is still a SSF administrator...
Toward the end of the thread that was closed.Wait, what did I miss?
I just exhaled beer. From my nose.Is Underhill coach Pete? Has anyone seen the two of them in the same room at the same time?
I just don't understand why Swimmer and CP would bother Underhill. It seems wahwah to me.I don't think Nick was attacking Swimmer personally, just the story Swimmer is presenting. As a professional NFL journalist and what is obviously a remaining connection to the Saints and Saints fans, he's just providing his informed view that the story is a fantasy.
Of course a great many of us already knew that.
I just don't understand why Swimmer and CP would bother Underhill. It seems wahwah to me.
No, He isn’t.
I am enjoying a magical weekend with my new fiancee after a miserable 18-year marriage,
Andrus to Swimmer:
I will add that you and I have spent some time together at golf-outings and crawfish boils, and I find you to be quite a character that is a lot of fun to be around. I thoroughly enjoyed the time that we spent chatting at those events and would hang out with you anytime. I also know from our visits that you expressed getting a kick out of getting a rise out of people on these boards.
Insert coach Pete’s infamous sheet eating grinSee, this casts some light.