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I like this team, especially when Rankins comes back. Our depth at DT is not great 'til that happens though. I think DT is our weakest spot. If this happens, we'll also be very young at WR. But Grayson seems to be a great little slot whom I like better than Carr, but Carr could replace Grayson.

Offense: 25
QB: Brees, Bridgewater, Hill
RB: Kamara, Murray, Washington, Ozigbo
FB: Line
TE: Cook, Hill, Derby, Arnold
WR: Thomas, Ginn, Smith, Butler, Grayson
LT: Armstead, Ola
LG: Peat, Easton
C: McCoy, Tom
RG: Warford
RT: Ramczyk

Defense: 25
DE: Jordan, Davenport, Hendrickson, Horton
DT: Brown, Onyemata, Stallworth, Williams, Edwards
LB: Anzelone, Klein, Davis, Robertson, Biegel
SS: Bell, Gardner-Johnson
FS: Williams, Banjo, Hampton
CB: Lattimore, Apple, Robinson, Webster, Hardee, Sherels

Special Teams: 3
LS: Wood
P: Morstead
K: Lutz
 

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Williams is a pretty decent boundary. Hes gotten better as a nickel. So williams position versatility makes him a lock can bank on that. Kirkwood also has position flexibilty which is what u want bottom of the deph chart. He got servicable traits as a flanker slot and z. I would be suprised if hes not on the team but its not impossible . I really dont know enough about Webster to comment his game or skill set. I think Newhouse is ur back up Tackle over Ola, Im hoping something better presents itself in roster cuts at that spot.
I'd think that a pinch-startable back-up LT would be the least likely position to find on Black Saturday. I'll add that Sean Payton has shown in the past that he values experience and familiarity with our scheme over talent and ability when it comes to offensive linemen. I would be very surprised if we brought in a back-up OT after cuts are made. I also think that if SP felt we were in a bad place with our OL, that we'd be out shopping right now.

We will have some players that will be tough to cut come August 31st. I think it there are a few players that actually have some player for player trade value right now. If it's possible to trade for an OT, now would be the time to do it. Regardless, it seems our coaches are good with the guys we have already. Personally, I'm just praying for an OL that actually through a season relatively healthy for a change.
 

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I like this team, especially when Rankins comes back. Our depth at DT is not great 'til that happens though. I think DT is our weakest spot. If this happens, we'll also be very young at WR. But Grayson seems to be a great little slot whom I like better than Carr, but Carr could replace Grayson.

Offense: 25
QB: Brees, Bridgewater, Hill
RB: Kamara, Murray, Washington, Ozigbo
FB: Line
TE: Cook, Hill, Derby, Arnold
WR: Thomas, Ginn, Smith, Butler, Grayson
LT: Armstead, Ola
LG: Peat, Easton
C: McCoy, Tom
RG: Warford
RT: Ramczyk

Defense: 25
DE: Jordan, Davenport, Hendrickson, Horton
DT: Brown, Onyemata, Stallworth, Williams, Edwards
LB: Anzelone, Klein, Davis, Robertson, Biegel
SS: Bell, Gardner-Johnson
FS: Williams, Banjo, Hampton
CB: Lattimore, Apple, Robinson, Webster, Hardee, Sherels

Special Teams: 3
LS: Wood
P: Morstead
K: Lutz
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Cut Grayson and add Cobb
Cut Arnold and add Deonte Harris
 

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PJ makes the team, so does Kirky (unless he goes on IR)

I think P Rob may even be in jeopardy.

Some of our young players that are showing promise will wind up on the PS, and get poached by less talented teams. That's the price you pay for having a talented team.
 

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Webster has an injury history. Lets see if he makes it through camp. Rooting for him but the history is the history.
 

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I find when I do this exercise every year, my misses are with picking too many veterans to make the team week 1. With veterans salaries becoming guaranteed if they make initial 53 man roster, Saints cut bottom of the roster vets and often bring them back later on.

Veteran's I believe won't make 53 because of guaranteeing salaries are: Derby, Webster, Grissom, Horton, Sherels, Newhouse, & Rodgers. Some could and should be brought back later. Derby, Webster, & Newhouse I like to be brought back after week 1.

Other veteran's I believe will make opening day roster but could also be cut and brought back later: Sylvester Williams (tough with Onyemata suspension week 1), Ola, & Banjo.

Guy's I believe make initial 53 with veterans being cut: Kirkwood, Deonte Harris, Stallworth, Gray, Elliss, Hampton, Clapp, & Grayson (to be sent down to P.S. after week 1).

There will likely also be a player from another team to make Saints initial 53, whether via cut, claim, or trade. I think this will be a pass rush specialist.
 

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Offense: 25
QB: Brees, Bridgewater, Hill
RB: Kamara, Murray, Ozigbo*
FB: Line
TE: Cook, Hill, Derby, Arnold
WR: Thomas, Ginn, Smith, Butler, Cobbs, Grayson** [Kirkwood IR]
LT: Armstead, Newhouse
LG: Peat, Easton
C: McCoy, Tom
RG: Warford
RT: Ramczyk

Defense: 25
DE: Jordan, Davenport, Hendrickson, Gustin***
DT: Brown, Onyemata, Stallworth, Williams, Edwards
LB: Anzelone, Klein, Davis, Robertson, Ellis
SS: Bell, Gardner-Johnson
FS: M Williams, Banjo, Hampton
CB: Lattimore, Apple, Robinson, PJ Williams (Webster?), Hardee, Sherels****

Special Teams: 3
LS: Wood
P: Morstead
K: Lutz

*Only keeping 3 RB b/c of Taysom and need for 4th TE for blocking. The last RB choice should be easy PS stash for later in season if needed. Alize Mack may be PUP/IR. Hill is an FA after this season so you have to think about his replacement.
**One of the younger WR will be IR'd. I think Grayson is on bubble but ST value keeps him there.
***Horton vet salary guaranteed Wk1, like Gustin's athleticism here
****I really don't care as much about the 5th CB given CGJ's versatility and Bell's to some degree. I think it comes down to salary and ST because ability may only be marginally better between Webster and Williams, and PJ gets the nod because of system/scheme familiarity.

Clapp is PS eligible still I believe.
 

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I find when I do this exercise every year, my misses are with picking too many veterans to make the team week 1. With veterans salaries becoming guaranteed if they make initial 53 man roster, Saints cut bottom of the roster vets and often bring them back later on.
that's a good way to look at it
to give completely arbitrary rankings
let's say the vet is a 7/10 and makes $5M - how low are you going to go to save $4M (assuming the rookes are at $1M for the sake of argument)
if the rookie is also a 7/10 if course you cut the vet
if 6/10, probably
if the rookie is 2 rankings lower (5/10), do you make the cut?
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all that being said, the vets we're talking about are likely in the $1.5-2M range
Dan Arnold is making $570K
PJ $2,25M
Ginn $3.67M
Ola $805K
 

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I’m gonna give it a try...

Offense: 26
QB: Brees, Bridgewater, Hill
RB: Kamara, Murray, Washington, Ozigbo
FB: Line
TE: Cook, Hill, Derby, Arnold
WR: Thomas, Ginn, Smith, Kirkwood, Butler, Harris (KR/PR)
LT: Armstead, Newhouse
LG: Peat, Easton
C: McCoy, Tom
RG: Warford
RT: Ramczyk

Defense: 24
DE: Jordan, Davenport, Hendrickson
DT: Brown, Onyemata, Stallworth, Edwards
LB: Anzelone, Klein, Davis, Robertson, Biegel, Elliss
SS: Bell, Gardner-Johnson
FS: Williams, Banjo, Hampton
CB: Lattimore, Apple, PJ Williams, Robinson, Hardee, Crawley

Special Teams: 3
LS: Wood
P: Morstead
K: Lutz

Changes in bold
 

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I’m gonna give it a try...

Offense: 26
QB: Brees, Bridgewater, Hill
RB: Kamara, Murray, Washington, Ozigbo
FB: Line
TE: Cook, Hill, Derby, Arnold
WR: Thomas, Ginn, Smith, Kirkwood, Butler, Harris (KR/PR)
LT: Armstead, Newhouse
LG: Peat, Easton
C: McCoy, Tom
RG: Warford
RT: Ramczyk

Defense: 24
DE: Jordan, Davenport, Hendrickson
DT: Brown, Onyemata, Stallworth, Edwards
LB: Anzelone, Klein, Davis, Robertson, Biegel, Elliss
SS: Bell, Gardner-Johnson
FS: Williams, Banjo, Hampton
CB: Lattimore, Apple, PJ Williams, Robinson, Hardee, Crawley

Special Teams: 3
LS: Wood
P: Morstead
K: Lutz

Changes in bold

I think this roster is more likely....I have hope that Humphrey can find a spot on the 53, but at the same time I think Harris (PR/KR) is a player who was brought in and will thirive in his role and is a "vision player" as Payton would put it, he was thrown right in vs the Vikings and performed....he has an ability....a clear skillset.
 
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I think this roster is more likely....I have hope that Humphrey can find a spot on the 53, but at the same time I think Harris (PR/KR) is player who for what he was brought in for will thirive in his role and is a "vision player" as Payton would out it
I think Sherels (while being an established and successful PR) offers next to nothing as a DB. He also is a vet that would have his salary locked-in should he make the opening day roster... and he is past his prime.
Harris is younger, cheaper, and has potential to play on offense in special packages.

I think Crawley makes the team as a deep reserve boundary CB. PJ Williams and P-Rob are both terrible on the outside.

I could see Grayson becoming the new TLL, only with better speed.
 

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Offense (25):

QB: Brees, Teddy, Taysom
RB: Kamara, Murray, Washington
FB: Line
WR: Thomas, Ginn, Smith, Butler, Grayson, Harris(KR/PR)
TE: Cook, Hill, Arnold, Mack
LT: Armstead
LG: Peat, Easton
C: McCoy, Tom
RG: Warford, Clapp
RT: Ramczyk

Defense (25):

DE: Cam, Edwards
DT: Onyemata, Williams
DT: Brown, Stallworth
DE: Davenport, Hendrickson
SAM: Klein, Elliss
MIKE: Anzalone, Biegel
WILL: Davis, Robertson
CB: Lattimore,
FS: Marcus, CGJ, Hampton
SS: Bell, Banjo, Gray
CB: Apple, Crawley
NB: PJ, PRob

Special teams (3):

K: Lutz
P: Morestead
LS: Wood

I think we may just go with 3 backs since Taysom is almost like having a 4th one. If we do keep 4 than Ozigbo would likely be that 4ty back. Depending on how Mack looks I think we may go with 4 tight ends. Right now I would likely add a tackle and go with just 3 tight ends. What tackle? Who knows? I think those receivers will likely be the 6 that make the team. Guys like Kirkwood, Cobbs, Carr, & Humphrey may have more to say though. I think Grayson likely makes it due to his speed and his play the other night. Think that is why Mathews was cut. If Butler is as good as they been saying I think he takes Kirkwood’s spot. I think we would likely keep a tackle over 3 interior backup o-Line man, but I think Easton, Tom, & Clapp are our best backups right now and I think we keep 3.

I don’t really see Edwards as a defensive end with the way he looked size wise the other night, but we really don’t have anyone else to fit that role right now. I just went with Williams at DT. The D-Line is likely far from set. Right now I think those LBs make it. I would like to see Porter Gustin make it over Vince Biegel, but right now I got Biegel on the team. Right now I’m going with 6 safeties cause JT Gray is just too good on special teams. Plus CGJ will likely play some nickel corner as well. Not sure if Crawley makes he team as the 5th corner, but I give him the edge as of now. I could see Hardee or Webster make it over him. I don’t have Sherels making the team with the way Harris looked returning the ball the other night. The 3 special teams spots are locked up.
 
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I like this team, especially when Rankins comes back. Our depth at DT is not great 'til that happens though. I think DT is our weakest spot. If this happens, we'll also be very young at WR. But Grayson seems to be a great little slot whom I like better than Carr, but Carr could replace Grayson.

Offense: 25
QB: Brees, Bridgewater, Hill
RB: Kamara, Murray, Washington, Ozigbo
FB: Line
TE: Cook, Hill, Derby, Arnold
WR: Thomas, Ginn, Smith, Butler, Grayson
LT: Armstead, Ola
LG: Peat, Easton
C: McCoy, Tom
RG: Warford
RT: Ramczyk

Defense: 25
DE: Jordan, Davenport, Hendrickson, Horton
DT: Brown, Onyemata, Stallworth, Williams, Edwards
LB: Anzelone, Klein, Davis, Robertson, Biegel
SS: Bell, Gardner-Johnson
FS: Williams, Banjo, Hampton
CB: Lattimore, Apple, Robinson, Webster, Hardee, Sherels

Special Teams: 3
LS: Wood
P: Morstead
K: Lutz

Interesting you left Kirkwood off the final 53.

It could happen but probably not likely. He shown a lot of potential last year.

They would probably keep Kirkwood and stash Grayson on the PS

Also I could see Deonte Harris making the team as Return man. Which could possibly make Sherals a Casualty.

You take the young stud who has a higher ceiling.

Who knows they also could stash him on the practice squad as well. It depends on how effective Sherals is this preseason as a returner/Corner
 

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Offense: 25
QB: Brees, Bridgewater, Hill
RB: Kamara, Murray, Ozigbo
FB: Line
TE: Cook, Hill, Arnold
WR: Thomas, Ginn, Smith, Kirkwood, Butler, Grayson, Harris
LT: Armstead, Ola
LG: Peat, Easton
C: McCoy, Tom
RG: Warford
RT: Ramczyk

Defense: 25
DE: Jordan, Davenport, Hendrickson, Gustin
DT: Brown, Onyemata, Stallworth, Edwards
LB: Anzalone, Davis, Klein, Robertson, Biegel
SS: Bell, Gardner-Johnson
FS: Williams, Hampton, Banjo
CB: Lattimore, Apple, Robinson, Williams, Webster, Hardee, Sherels

Special Teams: 3
LS: Wood
P: Morstead
K: Lutz

I'd love to swap out Arnold for Mack, but have no idea how long Mack will be out.
 

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