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Of course if the police just left her alone and she found a way to kill herself with something she had on her person then once again people would be crying brutality. I personally am sick of people suing over this stuff. At what point do we as Americans stop making people who make stupid decisions rich because of frivilous lawsuits. I speak with friends in Europe and they laugh at our country and what we have become. We are more concerned with the safety of an individual who is being an idiot over men and women who are just trying to do a thankless job.
 
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You may not be able to judge for yourself in the future , if Utah - Sen .
Buttars has his way .
He has introduced a bill to withhold police misconduct reports from the public . Supporters of the bill believe that police misconduct should be kept secret from the public so not to discredit police testimony .

That's funny , I thought misconduct on any persons behalf would
likely discredit them . ( In the past , police were considered citizens
just like you and me . I'm not so sure anymore . )

I tried to provide a link but it didn't work , however , you can go to
www.kutv.com and read the full story .
It's #4 , in a box titled - most popular stories , directly to the right of
the Federal Judge - busted for DUI , while wearing womens clothing ...
He is not a woman .
 
as a law enforcement worker...1st thing is "NO MALE OFFICERS CAN REMOVE CLOTHING FROM ANY FEMALE OFFENDERS"...that along should get them fired...i work in a prison building that has male and female offenders...the rule are very clear...lets say 2 female offendrs are fighting right in front of me, i can not stop them, cant touch them, all i can do is observe until female officers arrive...the only way i can intervene is if one has a weapon "and/or" is attacking another officer.
 
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i work in a prison building that has male and female offenders...the rule are very clear...lets say 2 female offendrs are fighting right in front of me, i can not stop them, cant touch them, all i can do is observe until female officers arrive...


I work at a prison with both male and female inmates and the only restrictions on me as a male regarding the female inmates is that I cant strip search them and I cant pat them down. Not that I want to anyway.

If a female needs to be cuffed and/or shackled, I can do it. If a female needs to be escorted to another location in the prison (lock down for example) I can do it. If females are fighting I can most certainly break it up, and have done so before. Also, if a female is threatening to, or trying to, kill or harm herself I can restrain her. I mean, if this were to happen in your jail you would just have to stand there and watch somebody kill them self right in front of you? Good luck with that lawsuit.

If your prison has rules to stop you from doing anything concerning female inmates then they should really make it two separate prisons with male inmates and a male staff in one and female inmates and a female staff in the other. Whats the point of having an officer there if he cant intervene? It makes the prison a much more dangerous place, IMO, if the inmates can say "Hey, this officer is the only one around and he's not allowed to stop us so lets go beat this girl as bad as we can before his backup gets here."

BTW, I havnt watched the video, so my comments have nothing to do with it really. Just saying that Ive worked in 3 prisons and in all of them I was allowed to intervene in situations involving female inmates as long as it didnt involve pat downs or strip searches so the rules must be different from state to state or institution to institution. The entire prison where I work, except the showers, is under video surveillance and if a female inmate tried to accuse me of doing something inappropriate to her (like inappropriate touching) while breaking up a fight or otherwise doing my job then it will be my word as an officer and the video tape evidence vs her word as a convicted felon. As long as Im doing my job in a professional manner, I like my odds.
 
I work at a prison with both male and female inmates and the only restrictions on me as a male regarding the female inmates is that I cant strip search them and I cant pat them down. Not that I want to anyway.

If a female needs to be cuffed and/or shackled, I can do it. If a female needs to be escorted to another location in the prison (lock down for example) I can do it. If females are fighting I can most certainly break it up, and have done so before. Also, if a female is threatening to, or trying to, kill or harm herself I can restrain her. I mean, if this were to happen in your jail you would just have to stand there and watch somebody kill them self right in front of you? Good luck with that lawsuit.

If your prison has rules to stop you from doing anything concerning female inmates then they should really make it two separate prisons with male inmates and a male staff in one and female inmates and a female staff in the other. Whats the point of having an officer there if he cant intervene? It makes the prison a much more dangerous place, IMO, if the inmates can say "Hey, this officer is the only one around and he's not allowed to stop us so lets go beat this girl as bad as we can before his backup gets here."

BTW, I havnt watched the video, so my comments have nothing to do with it really. Just saying that Ive worked in 3 prisons and in all of them I was allowed to intervene in situations involving female inmates as long as it didnt involve pat downs or strip searches so the rules must be different from state to state or institution to institution. The entire prison where I work, except the showers, is under video surveillance and if a female inmate tried to accuse me of doing something inappropriate to her (like inappropriate touching) while breaking up a fight or otherwise doing my job then it will be my word as an officer and the video tape evidence vs her word as a convicted felon. As long as Im doing my job in a professional manner, I like my odds.

what i am talking about is in texas and texas has very specific rules involving offenders of a different sex....and yes only women work on the female floors, but women and men work on the male floors...normally men would not be on a female floor exept for feeding or visitation, but for any reason i happen to be on a female floor and my previouslly posted example happened, i couldn't touch a female offender unless another officer's life was in parrel or she had a weapon. the prison i worked at in louisiana was an all male prison, so i don't know what the laws are for louisiana pretaining to opposite sex offenders.
 
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You know, it was bad, but her screaming makes us all think it was worse than what it really was.
 
what i am talking about is in texas and texas has very specific rules involving offenders of a different sex....and yes only women work on the female floors, but women and men work on the male floors...normally men would not be on a female floor exept for feeding or visitation, but for any reason i happen to be on a female floor and my previouslly posted example happened, i couldn't touch a female offender unless another officer's life was in parrel or she had a weapon. the prison i worked at in louisiana was an all male prison, so i don't know what the laws are for louisiana pretaining to opposite sex offenders.

I live/work in MS. Im just saying the first time a male officer in your state stands there while a female kills another female, or herself, there is going to be one hell of a lawsuit by that persons family so youd be better off ducking out somewhere and claiming you saw nothing if your not allowed to stop it.
 
I live/work in MS. Im just saying the first time a male officer in your state stands there while a female kills another female, or herself, there is going to be one hell of a lawsuit by that persons family so youd be better off ducking out somewhere and claiming you saw nothing if your not allowed to stop it.

yeah i know what you mean, but lawsuits brought on by female offenders are the very reason i could not stop a fight by two female offenders if there are no weapons involved
 
I'm sure all the tax payers here will be more than glad to pay for completely seperate and appropriately staffed facilities in order that things like this never happen again. :9:
 
I'm sure all the tax payers here will be more than glad to pay for completely seperate and appropriately staffed facilities in order that things like this never happen again. :9:

If the two woman officers seen in the video can't control a handcuffed 125lb lady laying face down on the floor then they don't need to be officers.

All the officers broke the rules and I'm sure they broke the rules knowingly. I'm sure there are two sides to the story but I honestly can't think of one story that would give the male officers the right to strip down a female while she is handcuffed in a cell with other female officers present. If the police station isn't prepared to handle a female charged disorderly conduct then what are they prepared to handle? I am usually defending the officer in many of these cases but there is nothing the police can do to make a case making me believe this was needed.

The next time you are at a party and some drunk girl starts acting a fool then get a couple buddies to help you strip her of her clothes after you handcuff her and pin her to the ground for her own protection and see how right the police officers and legal system thinks of your actions. :aduncan:
 

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