We are 1-2, and we have not looked good, but the sky is not falling. (1 Viewer)

[Kramer]

Basically if N.O showed up on the field and did nothing offensively they would of won the Game.

One FG and no turnovers Saints win 3-0.

Carolina did nothing to win the game. The Saints handed them every opportunity. Carolina didn't really have to earn that victory

Don't forget the refs helped them as well.

 

[Kramer]

This is what troubles me the most. Very similar body language. He’s already beat with no answers

He stuttered worse than Bobby Hebert in his press conference answering questions from the press. He was a broken record saying we have to watch the film and correct the mistakes. Same as last week.

 

[No2DC]

Basically if N.O showed up on the field and did nothing offensively they would of won the Game.

One FG and no turnovers Saints win 3-0.

Carolina did nothing to win the game. The Saints handed them every opportunity. Carolina didn't really have to earn that victory

They created that turnover, so ya they did something our D couldn't do. I appreciate the bright side of logic but not today.

 

[Lord Stanley]

Exactly this. Loomis can limit the damage by firing both DA and PC (as well as obviously replacing Winston) at the end of the season or he can keep DA and we’ll stink next year as well. The ball’s in his court now, he should be getting ready to search for a new HC.

Loomis needs to go as well. We would be drafting 6 if today, and will likely climb the ladder towards the 1st pick.

With the way this season is going we’d be set to get either Bryce Young or CJ Stroud, but Loomis bet the farm on a 11-37 Coach and traded next years 1st thinking he was a good HC.

 

[Bill]

Sorry OP... we're all walking on the sky right now.

 

[PHSaint518]

Loomis needs to go as well. We would be drafting 6 if today, and will likely climb the ladder towards the 1st pick.

With the way this season is going we’d be set to get either Bryce Young or CJ Stroud, but Loomis bet the farm on a 11-37 Coach and traded next years 1st thinking he was a good HC.

Completely agree I’ve said the same myself but I’d be shocked if Loomis retires and leaves this mess, he’ll want to try and “fix” it. Said at the time they traded next years 1st that it was an absolutely insane thing to do when we don’t know what we have at QB. Unfortunately it has proven to be insane.

Now we’re relying on the Chargers or Dallas overpaying for Payton and even then we may have to trade up for one of the top QB prospects. Loomis’ legacy is on the line this off-season, he needs to fix the HC and QB situation.

 

[Broad St. Saint]

Loomis needs to go as well. We would be drafting 6 if today, and will likely climb the ladder towards the 1st pick.

With the way this season is going we’d be set to get either Bryce Young or CJ Stroud, but Loomis bet the farm on a 11-37 Coach and traded next years 1st thinking he was a good HC.

You may be right that Loomis made a bad bet. But I think it's worth noting that Olave looked like the real deal in his 3rd NFL game, and the Saints wouldn't have him had they not traded that first (via Philly and DC). That said, it's starting to look like the Saints have a really good WR group with no way to get the ball to them.

 

[Lord Stanley]

Completely agree I’ve said the same myself but I’d be shocked if Loomis retires and leaves this mess, he’ll want to try and “fix” it. Said at the time they traded next years 1st that it was an absolutely insane thing to do when we don’t know what we have at QB. Unfortunately it has proven to be insane.

Now we’re relying on the Chargers or Dallas overpaying for Payton and even then we may have to trade up for one of the top QB prospects.

Yup. The best thing going for our franchise currently is the asset under contract in Sean that isn’t helping this year.

 

[Saint Kamara]

We have looked bad, mostly on offense. The D has not been perfect, but they have been good enough to win.

Also we actually outgained CAR from LOS by 133yrds.

I know the easy target is Winston, and he disserves a lot of flak, but to me the glaring weakness that makes our play-calling, QB play, etc, moot, is the O-Line. Pretty much outside of a quick "dink and dunk" attack, I do not see much we could consistently execute.

The left side has been horrific and I am not sure there is a fix. If Penning can come back, and if he is ready to be a full time LT at this level, then we can slide Hurst to LG and the line should look infinitely better. That is a thin hope though, and even then we would have no depth... one injury away from a dysfunctional line again. Ram is already dinged, and not really playing like we expect from him.


Anyway, the issues with the team was not the point of this post. It was the 1-2 start to the season and the corresponding assumption that we are headed for a league worst finish.


How many times in the Payton era did we go 1-2 (or worse) in the first 3 games of the season?

2007- We actually started 0-3 (0-4 actually), and ended up 7-9, missing the playoffs.
Colts 10-41
Bucs 14-31
Titans 14-31

2008- Started 1-2, ended up 8-8, missed the playoffs again.
Bucs 24-20
Redskins 24-29
Broncos 32-34

2012- Started 0-3 (0-4 again), ended up 7-9, and missed the playoffs.
Redskins 32-40
Panthers 27-35
Chiefs 24-27

2014- Started 1-2, again 7-9, missing the playoffs.
Falcons 34-37
Browns 24-26
Vikings 20-9

2015- Started 0-3... yeah 7-9, and a theme in missing the playoffs.
Cards 19-31
Bucs 19-26
Panthers 22-27

2016- 0-3, 7-9, missed playoffs, rinse repeat
Raiders 34-35
Giants 13-16
Falcons 32-45

2017 1-2, 11-5, Lost in divisional round of playoffs.
Vikings 19-29
Patriots 20-36
Panthers 34-13

2020 1-2, 12-4, Lost in the divisional round of playoffs.
Bucs 34-23
Raiders 24-34
Packers 30-37


Now most of those results will not build a lot of confidence in the Super Bowl or bust crowd, but a team with our O-Line play is not a contender, period.

Mostly I threw those results out there to show how many times we started the season looking like the sky was falling... and it simply was not.

We should be 0-3.

We just played the easiest part of our schedule, especially considering how banged up the Bucs were.

Schedule isn't favorable from here on out.

Y'all need to prepare for a 6 or 7 win season.

Dennis Allen is certainly not the answer, never was.

 

[Kramer]

This is EXACTLY my opinion. We are in a terrible situation and worse than I imagined it would be. I suspect they will try to shelve Pete first, but Allen is not HC material. I know a poorly coached team when I see one. The bold move would be to cut bait after this year. I wish we would have hired Doug Pederson.

I wanted Doug to coach here too. He wanted to be the Saints coach with his family ties to Louisiana and all.

 

[PHSaint518]

You may be right that Loomis made a bad bet. But I think it's worth noting that Olave looked like the real deal in his 3rd NFL game, and the Saints wouldn't have him had they not traded that first (via Philly and DC). That said, it's starting to look like the Saints have a really good WR group with no way to get the ball to them.

I imagine they could have still gotten Olave by trading up from pick 18 if they really wanted to. There was just no need to give next years 1st away.

 

[EGLSShin]

Lol.. This team looked good on Offense 1 quarter in 3 games. We probably have the most 2nd and 10 running plays called in the league. We're beyond undisciplined, badly timed penalties and turnovers. They got dominated by a team thats gonna be firing their coach before seasons end. The sky IS falling.

 

[NewOrleansBoy]

We lost to Carolina.

Carolina.

We took Atlanta to literally the last second.

Atlanta.

Division games are close narrative is a cop out answer I feel like especially when we have a new QB and a new HC

 

[Brandon13]

We should be 0-3.

We just played the easiest part of our schedule, especially considering how banged up the Bucs were.

Schedule isn't favorable from here on out.

Y'all need to prepare for a 6 or 7 win season.

Dennis Allen is certainly not the answer, never was.

As Vegas scoffs at our preseason optimism.

 

[No2DC]

We should be 0-3.

We just played the easiest part of our schedule, especially considering how banged up the Bucs were.

Schedule isn't favorable from here on out.

Y'all need to prepare for a 6 or 7 win season.

Dennis Allen is certainly not the answer, never was.

Opening up against 3 divisional opponents is never easy. That's the only point I disagree with.