Well, here's your anti-porn message... (1 Viewer)

Thats the thing thats always kind of bugged me about porn , would you want your sister/brother/etc. doing that? .

Honestly, I wouldn't have a problem with it. In the end, it's using an attribute you have to make money. No different than someone using their athletic skills to build a career in football.
 
How is your psyche from your job? I know that mine is wrecked, as is my body.

I am a chef and I could make an equal video of just the people who have come through my life in the kitchen.

bigeasy was spot on, this is ridiculous sensationalism. Frankly speaking, how many of us aren't exploited by our employers?

Where is my charity for kitchen workers?

Dumbed down, simple, sensationalized reasoning makes me sick. This video says nothing. None of us know why anyone in this video committed suicide, nor does that mean it has anything to do with porn. Steroids? How about we address pop culture and it's body image demands rather than porn? car wrecks? my god. I will give them the AIDS thing but porn has addressed that issue and porn stars statistically have less stds than the general population due to rigorous testing. puke. what about the nfl? where is mercury morris when you need him!

How am I sensationalizing it? Porn is arguably a nasty business. Watch the video again and you see the theme: Drugs, AIDS and suicide. It's sad. I'm not opposed to porn. I've watched plenty of it. Own plenty of it. I'm not judging you for watching it or someone else for making it. But it's a sordid business. Just from a female perspective, you're famous for being a whore. I can see that eventually taking a toll on some of these women.

But I will say this for porn: It's the only industry where women consistently make more money than men. I suppose that's something.
 
How am I sensationalizing it? Porn is arguably a nasty business. Watch the video again and you see the theme: Drugs, AIDS and suicide. It's sad. I'm not opposed to porn. I've watched plenty of it. Own plenty of it. I'm not judging you for watching it or someone else for making it. But it's a sordid business. Just from a female perspective, you're famous for being a whore. I can see that eventually taking a toll on some of these women.

But I will say this for porn: It's the only industry where women consistently make more money than men. I suppose that's something.
The only line in my post that was directed towards your post was the very first one. My bad, I should have been more clear. The rest was a basic point that all jobs have people who suffer from drugs, aids and suicide. Those are social problems, not the problem of any particular industry. My other point was that all of our employers exploit us in the workforce. Ask my Grandmother about her corpul tunnel syndrome, my grandfather who died of lung cancer from doing muffler work for GM. I saw the theme the first time, I don't need to rewatch it. All of the themes exists in our world across the board, but they are sensationalized in the porn industry simply because the subject matter is sex. My wife teaches at LSU and occasionally teaches a porn class(no they don't watch any) from the feminist perspective in regards to academic theory, she is also published on the matter. Since I happen to know a lot about the subject I will say, although I am a man, that there is a lot more to the feminist perspective of porn than "being seen as a whore".
 
Since I happen to know a lot about the subject I will say, although I am a man, that there is a lot more to the feminist perspective of porn than "being seen as a whore".


But they all are whores, if nothing else just simply by definition...
 
But they all are whores, if nothing else just simply by definition...
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the difference is the "whores" perception of being a "whore". Some argue that the negative connotations associated with the word "whore" are rooted in christian indoctrination. Once Christianity is removed, some women see it as sexual freedom by doing whatever they want with their own bodies, free from the judgment of religion or those who use religion as a moral measuring stick. Some take such freedoms and use it as social commentary or personal expression, that is, art. See Annie Sprinkle, stormy daniels, etc.
 
The only line in my post that was directed towards your post was the very first one. My bad, I should have been more clear. The rest was a basic point that all jobs have people who suffer from drugs, aids and suicide. Those are social problems, not the problem of any particular industry. My other point was that all of our employers exploit us in the workforce. Ask my Grandmother about her corpul tunnel syndrome, my grandfather who died of lung cancer from doing muffler work for GM. I saw the theme the first time, I don't need to rewatch it. All of the themes exists in our world across the board, but they are sensationalized in the porn industry simply because the subject matter is sex. My wife teaches at LSU and occasionally teaches a porn class(no they don't watch any) from the feminist perspective in regards to academic theory, she is also published on the matter. Since I happen to know a lot about the subject I will say, although I am a man, that there is a lot more to the feminist perspective of porn than "being seen as a whore".

Thank you for the clarification. I agree that many of us feel exploited by our bosses at one time or another. People who love their jobs and feel truly valued by and fairly compensated by their employers are probably rare. Depression and stress can take a toll on anyone in any job. But at least most of us work in jobs that are considered "respectable." However much porn all of us may watch, I doubt any of us would say we want our daughter or son to grow up to be a porn star. I also wonder how many people who work in porn have "normal" romantic/sexual relationships outside work.

Also, your wife's class sounds very interesting. You have a link to anything she's published available online?
 
Thank you for the clarification. I agree that many of us feel exploited by our bosses at one time or another. People who love their jobs and feel truly valued by and fairly compensated by their employers are probably rare. Depression and stress can take a toll on anyone in any job. But at least most of us work in jobs that are considered "respectable." However much porn all of us may watch, I doubt any of us would say we want our daughter or son to grow up to be a porn star. I also wonder how many people who work in porn have "normal" romantic/sexual relationships outside work.

Also, your wife's class sounds very interesting. You have a link to anything she's published available online?
Words like "respectable" and "normal" are not considered meaningful in this world. The whole point is too reject the male invented values about how women should behave with their own bodies. Patriarchal values are the enemy and the system to which they rebel. What is a "normal" romantic/sexual relationship? the sanctity of marriage? some have no concerns of such restraints and run in circles where "normal" is much more free. Not saying that it is for me, but it still exists in huge numbers of people in various different subcultures. As for the link, I am sorry but I choose to keep my family anonymous due to a freaky occurrence by someone on sr.
 
Words like "respectable" and "normal" are not considered meaningful in this world. The whole point is too reject the male invented values about how women should behave with their own bodies. Patriarchal values are the enemy and the system to which they rebel. What is a "normal" romantic/sexual relationship? the sanctity of marriage? some have no concerns of such restraints and run in circles where "normal" is much more free. Not saying that it is for me, but it still exists in huge numbers of people in various different subcultures. As for the link, I am sorry but I choose to keep my family anonymous due to a freaky occurrence by someone on sr.

I understand what you're saying. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If it is acceptable (and even encouraged) behavior for men to have many sex partners then it should be OK for women to do the same. I agree. But I didn't make the world, I just live here. The world is not "fair" when it comes to judging the sexual activities of men and women. So how it should be and how it is are two different things.

As for a "normal" romantic/sexual relationship, nah, I am not necessarily talking about marriage. I just think I'd wonder if a guy wanted to date me for myself or if it was just because I'm in porno and he thinks I'll be a wildcat. Also, a girl in my class in high school started dancing in clubs when we were in college and after. She'd work 4 days on as a respiratory therapist, and then the next three she'd work in a club. Made great money until the day she got "rescued" by a patron. Suddenly she went from independence to not working at all in either job and living with him in a "safe" and stable household. And I haven't heard from her in 10 years. It's that whole mother/whore dichotomy. You are either one or the other, with no middle ground. And again, you are right. It's a judgment of patriarchal society, but it still is what it is. I don't know that it will ever change.

Also, I understand about keeping your identity private. That's why I don't use my real name on Facebook.
 
Thats the thing thats always kind of bugged me about porn , would you want your sister/brother/etc. doing that?

Proud to say I've never bought any porn, only pirated :).

Well to be fair... if they ended up in porn, I doubt they were emotionally stable to begin with and probably would have not done much else with their life. And most likely, they would have died in some trailer park from a drug overdose or other reason.

Let's be clear about this, they performed because they felt it was the best option for their life. And to get to this point, they already made certain decisions about their life to begin with. You think porn screwed them up? Or they were already emotionally screwed up to begin with and that is why they chose to do porn?

At least this way, they got to make some money, get a little bit of fame and attention and make some people happy along the way in the process.

I would imagine they would prefer this to ODing in some random trailer park in the middle of nowhere as a nobody.

I'm not saying porn is ethical, moral or a good thing by any means. Just stating that these people were probably screwed from the get go anyways. This is how they chose to live their life, so be it.
 

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