What constitutes a draft bust? (1 Viewer)

[geauxtigers72]

I think Ryan Leaf Jon Sullivan David Car Akili Smith Courtney Brown all fall under the catogory of BUST

 

[hammernnails]

I think Ryan Leaf Jon Sullivan David Car Akili Smith Courtney Brown all fall under the catogory of BUST

I think it unfair to lump Carr in that mess.... he may have been over-rated... but he does not belong mixed in with those names.....

 

[Bak2ThaLab]

as I've mentioned in a prior post, in reference to meachem, he can't be declared a bust as of yet. Now, if he fails to make any significant contribution this year, those whispers may begin to surface. Specifically with regards to the wide receiver position, a majority don't really begin to produce until their 2nd or 3rd year, this is well known in fantasy football circles as drafting the 2nd/3rd year wr theory because their stats tend to really spike during this time frame. In reference to how the Saints have drafted over the past five or six years, I would include as busts chase lyman, cie grant, courtney watson, and antonio pittman (only because we wasted a fourth rounder only to cut him the same year).

 

[hammernnails]

as I've mentioned in a prior post, in reference to meachem, he can't be declared a bust as of yet. Now, if he fails to make any significant contribution this year, those whispers may begin to surface. Specifically with regards to the wide receiver position, a majority don't really begin to produce until their 2nd or 3rd year, this is well known in fantasy football circles as drafting the 2nd/3rd year wr theory because their stats tend to really spike during this time frame. In reference to how the Saints have drafted over the past five or six years, I would include as busts chase lyman, cie grant, courtney watson, and antonio pittman (only because we wasted a fourth rounder only to cut him the same year).

In fairness.. Chase Lyman was a risk/reward pick... not to be labled with this bunch.... the FO brass knew he was injured and figured a 4th round pick was about worth the risk to take if he could heal up.... he never really got physically well .. hard to call him a bust..

 

[duckjr78]

Guys, I know who is a bust, I want to know what defines a bust. Lack of impact, out of league in 2 years, etc. Please give me tangibles to work with. Trust me, I know Johnathan Sullivan and Ryan Leaf were busts.

 

[hammernnails]

Guys, I know who is a bust, I want to know what defines a bust. Lack of impact, out of league in 2 years, etc. Please give me tangibles to work with. Trust me, I know Johnathan Sullivan and Ryan Leaf were busts.

here ya go...

" a highly rated college player who becomes less than ordinary in the NFL"

 

[duckjr78]

here ya go...

" a highly rated college player who becomes less than ordinary in the NFL"

How about some parameters to define that?

 

[BoNcHiE]

If after 3-4 years said player is out of the league or a STer, then thats a bust.

A player like Stallworth is not a bust. He just didn't turn into an all pro. Not all 1st rounders become all pros. Some become average contributers.

A player like Meachem hasn't even had close to enough time in the league to be able to judge whether he is a bust or not.

 

[hammernnails]

How about some parameters to define that?

A player that does very well in college.... but then does not do well in the NFL.... a 1st round draft pick that is considered to be in the bottom 10% of all players at his given position

 

[diehard]

I think it unfair to lump Carr in that mess.... he may have been over-rated... but he does not belong mixed in with those names.....

I disagree. A player can become a bust if a team takes them higher than they should through no fault of the player. Carr as a 3rd rounder is ok while Carr as the number one overall is a bust.

That said, I'm not in the group that labels a 1st rounder a bust if they don't produce in their rookie season. They're a disappointment, but not a bust...examples being Brees (who didn't really contribute at a high level for SD until his 3rd season) or Manning, Eli (who didn't justify his price until the last 6 games or so of last season).

To me, a player would have to exit a team without ever contributing to the level of their selection before labeling them a bust.

 

[Phenomkart35]

CRY'IN RYAN LEAF. That the stick

 

[DCSaints_Fan]

A 1st - 3rd rounder who is out of the league by their 4th year, not because of injury.

 

[mmule]

If after 3-4 years said player is out of the league or a STer, then thats a bust.

A player like Stallworth is not a bust. He just didn't turn into an all pro. Not all 1st rounders become all pros. Some become average contributers.

A player like Meachem hasn't even had close to enough time in the league to be able to judge whether he is a bust or not.

I agree about Stallworth. Definitely not a bust.
Excellent rookie year.
Contributed 2nd year Started some 3rd year
Started w/ almost 1000yds 4th year
Traded for a 2 year starting middle LB, who may still start this year.
We may not have gotten #14 value, but he was definitely not a 'bust'.

Mikeeee

 

[CHI-TOWNSAINT]

I'll give it a shot...

You're a bust if by year 3 you aren't significantly contributing to whichever side of the ball you play.

 

[TheMike62987]

Basically what happened with last years draft...we drafted Meachem...signed him...and sat him...your first round draft choice should be an instant starter [except QB's]...although QB's are an exception to the rule...they better be ready real soon or I would consider them a bust also...if Meachem does nothing this year...perfect example of a 1st round draft bust...period!

NO NO NO NO NO ! Meachem was not a draft bust, and will not be a draft bust. Two injuries set him back early in Training Camp last year, and thus he was delayed in his development. By week 1 Meachem will be the obvious choice to be our #2 WR and will compliment Colston beautifully.

Colston = size and hands

Meachem = size,speed and hands (hes fast like devery, but is big and can catch)