What is John Claytons problem??? (1 Viewer)

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First he predicts the Saints would lose seven in a row, now he says ATL and Carolina are the two best teams in the NFC South ...on paper????



10. Carolina Panthers at Atlanta Falcons (Dec. 24): On paper, these are the two best teams in the NFC South. Michael Vick has already given the Panthers' defense trouble. The Panthers spent three years acquiring defensive players to stop him. They added speed at the corners to contain him in the pocket. Vick caught the Panthers cold in the opener with a 20-6 victory in Charlotte. Most of the division races will be formalities by Christmas. This one should still be undecided.
 
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In his defense...he did say "on paper"...which normally implies "should be"...

not that I am really trying to defend John Clayton.
 

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Yup he also said the Saints "could" lose 10 games in a row, not would, which is really saying nothing at all because it's true of all teams.
 

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Should I just go a head and plan others things for my Sundays now?
 

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Clayton and Salisbury are both saying now the Saints will be lucky to be a wildcard team. There's lots of factors why neither like the Saints. The biggest has to be that the team is making them look like idiots with their preseason predictions. IIRC both precdicted the Saints to be 6-10 or worse (didn't Clayton say the Saints would be lucky to win 4 games?) and easily the worst team in the NFC South. So both keep predicting a long losing streak for the Saints. Well, Haslett's Saints would have happily complied, I get the feeling that Payton's Saints are going to continue to make these two "experts" look like idiots......
 

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Well, who cares really?

All that matters right now is beating the Steelers.

Let the experts talk.
 

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John Clayton at different stages of his life.







 

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First he predicts the Saints would lose seven in a row, now he says ATL and Carolina are the two best teams in the NFC South ...on paper????



10. Carolina Panthers at Atlanta Falcons (Dec. 24): On paper, these are the two best teams in the NFC South. Michael Vick has already given the Panthers' defense trouble. The Panthers spent three years acquiring defensive players to stop him. They added speed at the corners to contain him in the pocket. Vick caught the Panthers cold in the opener with a 20-6 victory in Charlotte. Most of the division races will be formalities by Christmas. This one should still be undecided.

Unfortunately for him, and all the other "paper prognosticators, the games are played ON THE FIELD........not on paper. Accordingly, those paper predictions are a waste of the paper they're printed on.

All that said, try to cut John a little slack. Have you seen him lately? He's a very sickly looking boy... Perhaps that may explain his bouts of delirium?!
 

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Unfortunately for him, and all the other "paper prognosticators, the games are played ON THE FIELD........not on paper. Accordingly, those paper predictions are a waste of the paper they're printed on.

All that said, try to cut John a little slack. Have you seen him lately? He's a very sickly looking boy... Perhaps that may explain his bouts of delirium?!

All predictions are based on past performances. In sports, they correlate it with draft picks, who they think will contribute immediately, and free agents acquisitions.

The problems: young players may improve, coaches can learn, older players can decline, and average players can out perform, as well as, under perform. Sometimes, they even predict who will do the above for the next year. A supposition based on a supposition.

As someone noted, no one likes to be wrong. Losing to the Ravens like we did, only gave a breathe of new life that they won't be wrong.

Another problem is people give them far toomuch credit for their opinion. A sportswriter has no more the observation skills than I possessed. A former player can draw upon his own experiences, but he still only observing. There is no reason to get all hyped up when they say great or bad things about any team. Think about it, how often do you wonder if you are watching the same game as the "analyst?"
 

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All Analysts at one point or another have backed the saints. Some more, some less.

John Clayton is the ONLY one, that I am aware of, that has CONTINUALLY dismissed the Saints as a real team.
 

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