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Well, I disagree, and if you don't want to debate, that's fine. But when you make statements like "Shockey for this year's #2 would be a disaster" and when you insinuate that it would be the equivalent of "gutting the franchise" but giving up next year's #2 would be ok, it would be nice if you could give some clarification.


Injuries, attitude, and look at all the CBs and DTs available at the 41st pick--I could be wrong--and have been often.. lol but this is just my feelings on the matter.
 

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I think we have filled our quota of having guys on our roster that are still in rehab for injuries

McKenzie,Deuce,Vilma,Morgan,Bush
 
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honestly, a #2 (but more like a 3) next year... or maybe a #3 this year (4 more like it)
 

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honestly, a #2 (but more like a 3) next year... or maybe a #3 this year (4 more like it)

Didn't the Giants already turn down a #2 this year?
 
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lol.. jazzbo, guess you figured out I ain't a big Shockey fan.. lol
 

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If he were totally healthy and signed a longer contract: **** yeah, he's worth that pick. His fierce attitude is what this O needs and he would not pop off to Brees and Payton the way he did Manning and Coughlin. Its not even a question. The odds of getting his talent at that position (and an area of need for us) with even a late first is unlikely.

Injured and on his last year (I think): Its debatable.

Not to mention, Payton knows the dude. I trust SP's idea of his character over ours, considering we've never even met the guy (I'm assuming).
 

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what's he worth?

Easy, a 4th rounder...

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As I stated on the Dan Morgan thread, I think giving up a 2nd rounder is being generous, and I certainly wouldn't go any higher than that. However, my statement quoted in the original post was in response to these comments:

I love Shockey's fire when he's on--but why gut the franchise like Ditka did for Rickey Williams?

for this year's #2, it would be a disaster...
next year's #2, maybe ok...

Why do you compare it to the Ricky Williams trade, Rum? Why would it be "gutting the franchise?" Furthermore, if we gave up a 2nd rounder this year, why would it be a disaster, but if we gave up next year's 2nd rounder it would be ok? I think it's fair to ask for clarification here.
 
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I would say a 3rd and a conditional pick next year.
 

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3 rd at most. he is not worth a 2. the guy wasn't even on the sideline with his team during the superbowl
 
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If he were totally healthy and signed a longer contract: **** yeah, he's worth that pick. His fierce attitude is what this O needs and he would not pop off to Brees and Payton the way he did Manning and Coughlin. Its not even a question. The odds of getting his talent at that position (and an area of need for us) with even a late first is unlikely.

Injured and on his last year (I think): Its debatable.

Not to mention, Payton knows the dude. I trust SP's idea of his character over ours, considering we've never even met the guy (I'm assuming).

Drew would send his whiney azz to da corner of da SuperDome--then ask him if he was ready to play.
 

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I think it would be more of he'd have too much respect for Drew to mouth off. He has a charisma and leadership about him that Manning doesn't, and I'd bet we'd see more of Shockey having undying loyalty to him than a bad attitude.

Or Brees will send him to the corner. :hihi:
 

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Shockey has made it very clear that if it's not about him he doesn't care. To me he's a punk with attitude and a cancer whereever he goes. Hope he's traded to the CFL.
 
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As I stated on the Dan Morgan thread, I think giving up a 2nd rounder is being generous, and I certainly wouldn't go any higher than that. However, my statement quoted in the original post was in response to these comments:





Why do you compare it to the Ricky Williams trade, Rum? Why would it be "gutting the franchise?" Furthermore, if we gave up a 2nd rounder this year, why would it be a disaster, but if we gave up next year's 2nd rounder it would be ok? I think it's fair to ask for clarification here.

I could be over re-acting, but I don't think so... we have better prospects for this years's picks than next year's.

Next year's 2nd is a reach--win this year.

We can get a good DEF player on our 2nd this year. I'm not that worried about next year's 2nd.
 

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