What is the vendetta against Jeff Duncan? (2 Viewers)

DerrickB

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I know a lot of readers was not a big fan of his content over at Nola.Com or the Advocate or whatever they call it now. But it looks like to me his isn't respected by the other local media member as well.
 

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He pretty much never has anything positive to say about the organization. He swung and missed hard on the bounty thing by siding with Goodell. I think the consensus was he was hoping to suck up to the major media outlets like ESPN in the hopes of sticking with them but all he really did was alienate himself from the saints fan base. It was pretty pathetic actually. Which is a shame because he’s clearly a savvy football guy otherwise that seems to know his stuff.
 

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I know a lot of readers was not a big fan of his content over at Nola.Com or the Advocate or whatever they call it now. But it looks like to me his isn't respected by the other local media member as well.
He makes the attempt to be objective and occasionally plays the role of contrarian and most Saints fans can't handle anyone who doesn't pump sunshine all day...
 

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And then there were his articles comparing Saints fans and citizens of New Orleans to conspiracy theorists because we didn't agree with his take on Bounty Gate. In this article, and others, he denigrated the people of New Orleans. He has even refered to fans opposed to the antics of Goodell as "meatnecks".

Those were little more than a slap in our face and a sign of serious disrespect to our community. An example:

New Orleans loves nothing more than a good conspiracy.

Centuries of systematic corruption have stripped the naivete of the city's residents. Years of back-room dealing have destroyed their trust.

Linebacker Jonathan Vilma says the Saints had a pay-for-performance, not a pay-to-injure system. However, former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, right, has publicly admitted to having such a system, which he partially funded.
In New Orleans, we take nothing at face value, believe only what we see with our own eyes and prefer mystery to reality.

We believed the Bring New Orleans Back Commission was controlled by mysterious developers, undoubtedly the same sinister forces who dynamited the levees.

Even the mayor believed the city was run by "a shadow government." This conspiratorial culture spawned scores of conspiracy theories about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

"No other people love fantasy more than the people of New Orleans ... where phantasmal mystery, voodoo and dark intrigue are treasured commodities," wrote Vincent Bugliosi in his book "Reclaiming History: The Assassination of John F. Kennedy."

So it should come as no surprise that a confederacy of conspiracy theorists have spawned since the NFL announced the findings of its bounty probe into the Saints organization earlier this year.
 
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And then there were his articles comparing Saints fans and citizens of New Orleans to conspiracy theorists because we didn't agree with his take on Bounty Gate. In this article, and others, he denigrated the people of New Orleans.

Those were little more than a slap in our face and a sign of serious disrespect to our community. An example:


Where is the lie? I get that it's unflattering, but anyone who has spent time on this website knows every bit of that is true. We see wild *** conspiracies all the time on this forum.
 

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Where is the lie? I get that it's unflattering, but anyone who has spent time on this website knows every bit of that is true. We see wild *** conspiracies all the time on this forum.
Not the city nor fans that I know. Your opinion notwithstanding.

Derrick asked what the vendetta was all about. Duncan's attitude towards the city and fans are a big part of why people don't like him.
 
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Exhibit 1A

Gregg Williams wasn't alone in the New Orleans Saints bounty issue
Updated Mar 6, 2012; Posted Mar 6, 2012

By Jeff Duncan, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune

Sean Payton is not going to be fired for Bounty-gate nor should he be.
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Michael DeMocker/The Times-Picayune

New Orleans Saints former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, left, and Coach Sean Payton are together in the bounty issue.

His actions - or more appropriately inaction - were negligent and he deserves whatever penalty he receives from the NFL for his involvement in the scandal but he's earned the right to keep his job. And by all accounts he will.

Sources say New Orleans Saints owner Tom Benson's support of Payton and General Manager Mickey Loomis is unwavering. But rest assured, Benson will have far less patience should another ugly incident disgrace the club.

While Payton is safe, his leash is considerably shorter now than it was a week ago.

The scandal has irreparably damaged the Saints' reputation and embarrassed Benson in league circles. It's created the biggest public relations nightmare since the club's shameful post-Katrina dalliances with San Antonio.

And make no mistake; this wasn't some Gregg Williams-driven agenda. Williams wasn't a lone vigilante. Payton might not have administered the racket, but he knew about it and did nothing to stop it.

More on the bounty issue
Commissioner Roger Goodell has made it clear that NFL executives and coaches will be held to higher standards than players for violations of the league's personal conduct policy. This incident will be adjudicated the same way.

Payton can expect serious punishment. Some believe his suspension could span multiple games, perhaps as many as eight. The fine likely will total six figures.

Payton's and Loomis' failure to stop the bounty system also could cost the Saints a draft pick or picks.

When all is said and done, the collective on- and off-field damage from the scandal could cost the Saints millions.

Payton has yet to address the situation publicly. He's gone underground since the league released its findings Friday.

A person familiar with the investigation says Payton appears to be stealing a page from the CIA's Watergate gameplan: "Admit nothing. Deny everything. Launch counter-accusations."

In its release Friday, the NFL said Payton "was not a direct participant in the funding or administration of the program," but said "he was aware of the allegations, did not make any detailed inquiry or otherwise seek to learn the facts, and failed to stop the bounty program. He never instructed his assistant coaches or players that a bounty program was improper and could not continue."

League detectives reportedly uncovered incriminating emails from Payton to friend and business associate Mike Ornstein with extensive details of the bounty system. In fact, Ornstein reportedly offered a $5,000 bounty for a quarterback scalp in one of the emails late last season.

That Ornstein is still associated with the Saints is, in itself, disturbing. He's a twice-convicted felon who once defrauded the NFL of $350,000. He's kryptonite in league circles and NFL officials have long frowned on his cozy relationship with the Saints. Yet, team officials foolishly have allowed him to enmesh himself in the organization. He's not listed in the team media guide but he wears Saints-issued gear around the facility and has team-approved sideline passes to games.

Payton's plausible deniability aside, clearly he is partially culpable for this mess. He is, after all, the overlord of the Saints' football operations. Nothing happens involving a player, scout, coach or trainer that he's not intimately aware of. When transgressions occur on his watch he must be held accountable.

He might not have been as heavily involved as Williams, who administered the pool and contributed to it financially, but he undoubtedly was aware of its existence. To think otherwise is absurd.

Goodell is expected to announce punishment before the league's annual meeting March 25-28 in West Palm Beach, Fla.

Rest assured, the issue won't go away after the hammer falls. It will follow Payton for the rest of his career.
This is the first major black-eye of Payton's wildly successful six-year tenure. There have been public-relations hiccups along the way, including the Vicodin lawsuit filed by the team's former director of security in 2010 and his controversial decision to move his family to the Dallas suburbs a year ago. Those incidents, though, pale in comparison to this ugly situation.

Payton will survive Bounty-gate. But he won't survive a second one.

Duncan bought that bull**** hook, line, and sinker because he thought it’d land him a cushy job at ESPN (this was when ESPN announced they were going to be hiring a beat writers for all 32 franchises) and instead it blew up in his face and they hired an actual journalist, Mike Triplett.
 

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Thanks for posting the articles, but reading them just makes me mad again. I feel like I’m man enough to get pissed off at my team if they had put up $ to actually injure opposing players. However, if it was so obvious, why hasn’t the evidence been published to the public? As a fan I want to see it, so that I can process the information, get mad and hopefully move on. We all know that the league was facing a substantial concussion lawsuit and it scared the heck out of them!

If we were guilty, I’m man enough to handle it. But please show us the evidence!
 

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Fans give the media too much attention. In this era of saying and doing whatever it takes to get a click, no one should really care. But if hating Duncan makes you (meaning anyone who invests emotion in hating him or other media members) feel better, have at it. He, and the rest of the media (for the good or bad), are non entities to me.
 

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