What would you do in this situation? (1 Viewer)

[Jonesy77]

Well,
We all have our own way of handling situations and maybe being to prideful and arrogant in some instances may be my downfall one day. Bottom line if I can defend my country in a more austere and dangerous environment than that of a drunk moron at a Cleveland’s game than I sure as hell can defend my child. Not only can I, but it is my obligation as a man and his protector to do so until my last breath regardless of how trivial YOU may deem that situation. Agree to disagree

I imagine the number of violent murders stateside vs. sustained in the Theater wouldn't favor your logic.

 

[basilisk]

i spent a week in cleveland one night

 

[LSSpam]

i spent a week in cleveland one night

Did you escape?

 

[chad141fa]

But you aren't protecting him. You're sending him off with his mother, your wife, by themselves, while you stay behind and focus on a dumb drunk.

I hope I have the presence of mind to stay with my wife and child in such a situation rather then focusing my attention on some drunk ******* and leaving them unattended.

We are making different risk assessments on my wife taking the kid to the car. I rate it at low where evidently you have it as high. I’m not saying I am correct in my personal preference, just stating the fact that at no point in my life would that ever go without consequences. As I said before, I breath for my children and if someone hurts them nor God or country will stop me from teaching them a lesson. I am not a violent individual at all and with my job very calm and collected, make appropriate decisions, but there are certain situations that require certain responses and for me that is one. If you would not fight for that (your own children) than what are you willing to fight for win or lose.

 

[Jonesy77]

We are making different risk assessments on my wife taking the kid to the car. I rate it at low where evidently you have it as high. I’m not saying I am correct in my personal preference, just stating the fact that at no point in my life would that ever go without consequences. As I said before, I breath for my children and if someone hurts them nor God or country will stop me from teaching them a lesson. I am not a violent individual at all and with my job very calm and collected, make appropriate decisions, but there are certain situations that require certain responses and for me that is one. If you would not fight for that (your own children) than what are you willing to fight for win or lose.

I think the point is you are not doing your child any favors by trading a scraped leg for a scraped leg plus a father with a knife wound in his kidney and a week in ICU or maybe dead.

 

[chad141fa]

I imagine the number of violent murders stateside vs. sustained in the Theater wouldn't favor your logic.

You are correct, but overseas there is no "safe place" as opposed to stateside I dont chum around the projects and other high crime rate areas. Nice try, but those stats don't tell the whole story if you are just looking at numbers. If you are trying to convince me that driving down verterans is equivalent to driving down RTE Irish then you are wrong

 

[JimEverett]

i'd just start screaming "scoreboard muther *******!!!!!!!"

 

[LSSpam]

If you would not fight for that (your own children) than what are you willing to fight for win or lose.

I'm willing to make my wife and child my top priority (well, I hope I would in that situation), not my masculine pride. We just differ. That's cool. Some people prioritize differently.

 

[Jonesy77]

You are correct, but overseas there is no "safe place" as opposed to stateside I dont chum around the projects and other high crime rate areas. Nice try, but those stats don't tell the whole story if you are just looking at numbers. If you are trying to convince me that driving down veterans is equivalent to driving down RTE Irish then you are wrong

Right, but we're not talking about comparing average, everyday events to war, are we? We're comparing an literal mob filled with angry mostly men who have already demonstrated a willingness to exact violence on children against only you vs. war, where you're better armed and have a bunch of buddies nearby.

That ain't driving down veterans, that's cruising the projects and other "high crime areas"

 

[Jonesy77]

And just so we're clear, I can't account for what I would do in that case. It's entirely possible that I "see red" and just start throwing. But sitting here, in a quiet, rational place, that would not be the best course of action for my child.

 

[LSSpam]

And just so we're clear, I can't account for what I would do in that case. It's entirely possible that I "see red" and just start throwing. But sitting here, in a quiet, rational place, that would not be the best course of action for my child.

Exactly. Maybe I'd go "dumb male" on the dude, but I hope I wouldn't. I hope having a kid (I don't have one) would create some sort of "protect my child" imperative and not the standard "this dude needs his *** kicked" impulse.

 

[Sarcastic]

You are correct, but overseas there is no "safe place" as opposed to stateside I dont chum around the projects and other high crime rate areas. Nice try, but those stats don't tell the whole story if you are just looking at numbers. If you are trying to convince me that driving down verterans is equivalent to driving down RTE Irish then you are wrong

If you had the opportunity to NOT drive down Irish, would you?

What if you had to take your kid and wife with you?

Me, I'd take my wife and kid the long way around Biap, and stay in the center lane.

Risk assessment, unlikely but catastrophic...high risk. Implement controls: ignore the drunk and escort family. Residual risk low.

 

[chad141fa]

Exactly. Maybe I'd go "dumb male" on the dude, but I hope I wouldn't. I hope having a kid (I don't have one) would create some sort of "protect my child" imperative and not the standard "this dude needs his *** kicked" impulse.

II understand completely what everyone in disagreement is saying, but like I stated earlier that I had an experience similar to this scenario and I went with my ‘suggestion’. I could not control my rage at my child being hurt and reacted to the situation? Was it appropriate and he got what he deserved? Absolutely. Was it smart and the right thing to do? Probably not, but it is what it is

 

[chad141fa]

If you had the opportunity to NOT drive down Irish, would you?

What if you had to take your kid and wife with you?

Me, I'd take my wife and kid the long way around Biap, and stay in the center lane.

Risk assessment, unlikely but catastrophic...high risk. Implement controls: ignore the drunk and escort family. Residual risk low.

Ha ha ha......nice...you must be an officer....ha ha

 

[Sarcastic]

Ha ha ha......nice...you must be an officer....ha ha

Hey, watch yourself there, buddy. 11 years Army 11B, E-6. Two trips to that hellhole. Never considered becoming a zero even for a second.

I've just led my share of patrols, and done plenty trips down Irish. The paperwork these days is STUPID.

it is what it is

Where I come from, that's officer talk