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- Oct 11, 2006
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They were quitters. I don't remember any team playing full tilt 4 quarters as much as this team does.
I could be wrong, but seems like the rookie Coach Haz's team thrived on creating turnovers and making a lot of unorthodox gambles, like an onside kick to start the half. And they played with a chip on their shoulder, playing up emotion as underdogs. Payton's team has won despite not getting turnovers, their hallmark is playing smart and with few mental errors, gained respect early instead of late, and continued playing well after no longer being underdogs. Only time will tell the rest.
I'm not sure they're were many quitters on Haz's 1st year team. 2nd year and beyond, yes... 1st year? not so sure.
Yeah total revisionist history to say the 2000 team had "quitters". 2000 team had some outstanding leaders, like La'Roi Glover, Sammy Knight, Jerry Fontenot. Of course those were all Ditka players (ironic, Ditka formed the core of our best season. Go figure) and Haslett promptly started getting rid of them for such studs like Grady Jackson, Tebucky Jones, Dale Carter, Albert Connell, etc.
I have been thinking the same thing - but I think the difference this time we have a proven (yet still young) QB instead of a Cinderalla story QB.
Also I think our leadership and character is much better. When you think about Brees and McAllister, they are world's better than Brooks and Ricky were, and I don't see that changing.
Forget for a moment how the Haslett Era ended, and think back to his first year with the Saints in 2000.
Coach Payton's 1st year team & Haz's 1st year team definitely had a few similarities.
For example, after twelve weeks, both teams were 7-4, and whether we want to admit it or not, most of us thought back then that Haz was a very good coach.
Both team's also made use of a lot of FA pickups, draft choices, and trades that year to be 7-4 after 12 weeks...
Yet, when I look at both teams, there's still something very different about Sean's 1st year 7-4 Saints...
How about you? Are they really different, or are we just "thinking" these 2006 Saints are a cut above Haz's 1st year team?
After reading all the good answers, and the more I think about it, I beginning to understand that the major difference between Haz's 1st team and Payton's first year team is the following:
When hired, Payton was "ready" to become a head coach in the NFL. Haz simply wasn't... and still isn't.
Well yes. Payton understands the foundation of his success (leadership, effort, "players") and has intentionally built his team on those principals. Haslett accidentally fell into a team with a lot of that (overachievers like Sammy Knight), didn't grasp why he had success, and then promptly dismissed the reasons for his success and loaded up on guys who
a) didn't care/weren't motivated (Grady Jackson)
b) had great talent but zero football ability/instincts (Tebucky Jones)
c) were toxic (Albert Connell)
Which is why there is every reason to suppose Paytons success will be sustainable while Hasletts was not.
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