Whether it's this year or another year, what compensation would you want for Sean Payton to go to Dallas or another team? (1 Viewer)

[DaveXA]

I'm with this except Diggs is one of the worst corners in the NFL in coverage and people gloss over it because INTs.

Yeah, he's certainly not a lock down corner like Latt or others like that. He's boom or bust too often. That said, there's a lot to like about him and would do well in our defense.

 

[Lord Stanley]

I can see that potentially being the case, CSP loves Gayle and Tom, but he needs a "killer" in the owners booth that wouldn't take the turd sandwich they were being served up...but where is this "Lack of Juice" quote coming from?

It’s not something you’re going to see Sean say publicly, much of the NFL shows this morning we’re using this terminology is describing their conversations with Sean. Following is close to direct quote related to OBJ recruitment from Sean.

Sean wants to work for a franchise that won’t have the limitations of our region.

Juice

 

[Humperdoo]

I can see that potentially being the case, CSP loves Gayle and Tom, but he needs a "killer" in the owners booth that wouldn't take the turd sandwich they were being served up...but where is this "Lack of Juice" quote coming from?

Yes I’d like to see that too. The quote. I can sure believe it tho.

 

[Treybad]

To start off Dallas 1st rd 2023 1st rd 2024 Dallas 2nd rd 2023 Dallas 3rd rd 2024. If Dallas were to make the SB in 2023 or 2024 Saints get Dallas 1st rd 2026 and Dallas 2nd rd 2026. Either way we get more if they attend SB in a time frame chosen between teams

 

[First Time Poster]

I'm with this except Diggs is one of the worst corners in the NFL in coverage and people gloss over it because INTs.

You dont get 11 interceptions in the NFL by being one of the worst corners in the league. That's hyperbole. Turnovers are a premium in the NFL and affect wins and losses more than anything else and one guy stealing 11 possessions can't be glossed over.

That being said, he does have flaws, significant ones, but they are things that can be coached up. What can't be coached up, or is harder to teach, is ball skills, size and speed. And he has that in spades. I'm not advocating for him but I'm not turning down a legit, 23 year old pro bowl/all pro caliber corner if he is available. That's crazy. He's boom or bust. You just tighten up the mechanics and get the bust out of his game.

 

[Jesse Custer]

His coverage skills are awful. That's backed up by stats compiled against him. Dude gave up more yardage than Jason David. I would take Parsons over him in a heartbeat.

Why Trevon Diggs' PFF grade doesn't reflect his interception total | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

Dallas Cowboys second-year corner Trevon Diggs has made his name known this season by picking off opposing quarterbacks 11 times so far. He even made the Pro Bowl. But his gaudy interception total doesn't mean as much when you consider how much he's given up this year.

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[DaveXA]

His coverage skills are awful. That's backed up by stats compiled against him. Dude gave up more yardage than Jason David. I would take Parsons over him in a heartbeat.

Why Trevon Diggs' PFF grade doesn't reflect his interception total | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

Dallas Cowboys second-year corner Trevon Diggs has made his name known this season by picking off opposing quarterbacks 11 times so far. He even made the Pro Bowl. But his gaudy interception total doesn't mean as much when you consider how much he's given up this year.

www.pff.com

I think pretty much everyone would take Parsons over Diggs at this point. Parsons is going to be a one in a generation type player if he keeps at it.

 

[CajunSaint08]

One 1st round pick for every 10 win season, plus one 2nd round pick for every NFC South title.

That would be 9 1st round picks and 7 2nd round picks over the next 9 years of the team that Sean Payton goes to.

 

[gavinj]

Something better than the Bruce Arians deal. Lol

 

[Saint Floyd]

If someone like Dallas makes a move for Coach Payton, then you can forget about getting any impact players from their active roster. It would defeat the purpose of them making such an investment in a coach under contract elsewhere.

My first demand would be three 1st round picks and three 2nd round picks. Once you don't get that, you can start negotiating; however, I wouldn't accept a lot less than two 1st rounders and two 2nd rounders.

 

[Complex Kid]

He can’t wait out the contract.

I'm not sure that's how that works:

What's next for Sean Payton? Cowboys, Bears jobs, TV work all options after leaving Saints

Sean Payton has stepped away from the Saints after 15 years at the helm. What's next for him? There are a lot of options for him, both on and off the field.

www.sportingnews.com

Sean Payton contract details​

Payton signed a contract with the Saints in 2019 that made him one of the highest-paid coaches in the NFL. It was a five-year pact that paid him roughly $9 million annually. He made it through just two of those seasons before opting to step away.

However, Payton will still be under contract for the next three years despite leaving. As such, if he wants to return to the NFL in 2023, the Saints will still own his rights for at least another season.

What does that mean? A team would have to compensate the Saints to hire Payton, per NFL Network's Ian Rapoport.

That may not necessarily be a dealbreaker for a team looking to hire Payton, but it would certainly complicate the matter. NFL teams don't like giving up draft capital even for proven resources. However, teams have swapped high-priced resources more in recent offseasons, so perhaps if a team viewed Payton as enough of a difference-maker, it could pursue him.

Payton's contract won't run out until after the 2024 season, so this issue will be there if any team wants to hire Payton over the next three years.

 

[O MAN]

For reference: Two first-round picks; two second-round picks; $8 million cash is what the Raiders got for John Gruden.

I'll use Dallas for my example and y'all can use a different team if y'all want or same team but different trade.
But I want the following:

1st round pick
2nd round picks from 2022 and 2023
A WR
Eat $20 million of our cap if there's a way to do that? If not then add in another 1st round pick whether its 2023 or 2024

2 1st
2 2nd
$12mm

 

[RJ in Lafayette]

The Gruden deal will not be the model. The Belichick deal should be. It will certainly not involve players. I would be happy with two first-round picks. My guess is a one and the following year a two. The team should try to get maximum compensation. Once Payton talks with other teams about a coaching job, he is a dangerous adversary and should be treated as such. The mindset should be that we do not want Payton coaching another team in the league. It would managerial malpractice to allow personal feelings to result in lower compensation, but I fear that it might.

 

[DaveXA]

The Gruden deal will not be the model. The Belichick deal should be. It will certainly not involve players. I would be happy with two first-round picks. My guess is a one and the following year a two. The team should try to get maximum compensation. Once Payton talks with other teams about a coaching job, he is a dangerous adversary and should be treated as such. The mindset should be that we do not want Payton coaching another team in the league. It would managerial malpractice to allow personal feelings to result in lower compensation, but I fear that it might.

Yeah, the Saints have to fight for all the compensation they can get if Payton goes anywhere within the next 24 months. To get little or nothing would be a dereliction of duty on the part of Saints management.

That said, it's all moot if Payton decides not to return to coaching.