Why do so many people think Joe Burrow will be great in the NFL? (1 Viewer)

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No this isn't meant to be an anti Joe Burrow thread. I think he has done great at LSU and deserves to be a high 1st round pick. But why is everyone so sure he will light it up in the NFL? Yes, he played in a spread offense similar to the Saints but he also had great playmakers around him. Will he have that with the team that drafts him? And why do so many people think the Saints would mortgage everything to obtain Burrow? I just don't see it. I want Joe Burrow to succeed and would love if somehow he became a Saint. But not at the cost of destroying a team that just won 13 games.
 
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No this isn't meant to be an anti Joe Burrow thread. I think he has done great at LSU and deserves to be a high 1st round pick. But why is everyone so sure he will light it up in the NFL? Yes, he played in a spread offense similar to the Saints but he also had great playmakers around him. Will he have that with the team that drafts him? And why do so many people think the Saints would mortgage everything to obtain Burrow? I just don't see it. I want Joe Burrow to succeed and would love if somehow he became a Saint. But not at the cost of destroying a team that just won 13 games.
Burrow got early NFL training by operating in a college west coast offense at LSU and he played lights out! That's why!
 

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Because you still have people out there that think he was amazing In college and will most certainly translate that into the nfl.
 

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I do wish him luck.

I just don't see him as a put a team on my back kinda guy without superior talent surrounding him.

The Bengals will have to do it with hitting on draft picks because people don't want to play for them.

They are in the same boat as the Jets. You have to grossly overpay to get people in the door.

So for Joe to be successful they are gonna have to be lights out in other draft picks.

Sorry I just see the same as the kid from the dolphins. Show glimpses no help then hits the street. Then hopefully lands in a good place.
 
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Quarterbacks who also won the Heisman and a National Championship:

Charlie Ward
Danny Wuerffel
Matt Leinart
Cam Newton
Jameis Winston

I mean, what could go wrong?
Why is Cam Newton on a list with some of the biggest draft busts of all time and turnover machine Jameis Winston?
 

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Why is Cam Newton on a list with some of the biggest draft busts of all time and turnover machine Jameis Winston?
Because he’s a quarterback who won the Heisman and the National Championship. Ya know, like the title above the list says. If this is still confusing... He played for Auburn. He was the quarterback. He got the most votes cast by Heisman trophy voters. Auburn won the National Championship, finishing the season ranked #1. The other quarterbacks on the list achieved the same, but not at Auburn. At different schools, like USC or Florida for example.
 

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I agree with your assessment, but I think the biggest question as to whether or not he becomes great depends on if he ends up with a great coach with a good team around him.

His strengths and weaknesses are a carbon copy of Chad Pennington’s coming out of Marshall. Super smart, insanely accurate, great leader, prototypical size, etc.

Pennington’s biggest problem was getting drafted by the Jets. He still broke records for completion percentage, almost won the MVP, but his coaches were morons and he took a beating out there. His career was way less than it should have been.

I hope that Burrow ends up in a good situation. Maybe Zac Taylor is the perfect coach for him, doubt it, but time will tell.
Interestingly enough, Chad Pennington is the only QB NOT with the Patriots to win the AFC East division Championshipin the last 20 years, and he did it twice. 2008 with Miami, and 2002 with NYJ.
 

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Yes, his age and maturity are an unfair advantage but that's not his fault.

He runs a little more than I would like and also holds on to the ball too long before flinging it OOB. I think he will fix that right away when his coach shows him pictures of Joe Theisman's leg.
Advantage yes, but what makes it unfair? There is nothing in the rulebook that says its against the rules. That would be like saying its an unfair advantage to have the best team. Isn't that the point...to have the best team?
 

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I've given no criticism of Burrow because I don't think he deserves much. He's as good a prospect coming out of college as you'd want except for the age issue.

There is a bit of "throw up and hope it's caught" in his game and that was helped by an incredible group of WRs. He's very, very aggressive, and that doesn't always work against NFL caliber DBs. He could be a guy who has to be taught to dial it back once in the pros to avoid turnovers. Burrow is also not an elite athlete. He's got good size and mobility, but he doesn't have a Russell Wilson-type arm.

Lastly, there's the one year wonder aspect. It's always a concern when a guy goes from looking like a 5th or 6th round pick to the 1st pick in one season.

So there, that's me straining point out any negatives. I'd still love to have him if it weren't an impossibility.
Of course he's a one hit wonder. Name anyone else who ever had the best season ever....TWICE.
 

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Of course he's a one hit wonder. Name anyone else who ever had the best season ever....TWICE.
I'm not really getting the point of your defensiveness. Burrow was an average at best college QB a year ago.
 

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Interestingly enough, Chad Pennington is the only QB NOT with the Patriots to win the AFC East division Championshipin the last 20 years, and he did it twice. 2008 with Miami, and 2002 with NYJ.
That is kinda a fair. I do think Joe has a way better arm than Chad did at this point.

Pennington had the minimum arm you need in the NFL when he was a rookie.

Injuries made his arm a noodle.

But man that guy was smart. If you could have attached Jeff George's arm to him he would have been the best to ever play.
 

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I don't think any Quarterback is a 'Sure thing'. Andrew Luck was a 'sure thing' but injuries derailed him. Ryan Leaf was a 'sure thing' and instead turned out to be one of the biggest draft busts of all time. Peyton Manning was about as close to a 'sure thing' as I remember and he had a great career. Then there are guys like Tom Brady and Drew Brees who flew under the radar and turned out to be two of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. It's all a crap shoot.
 

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That surely is a guy that did not endure the true lean years?

As a guy that lived thru way too many dudes named Billy Joe that is the last thing I ever want.
I was there for Hebert, Fourcase, Hobert, Tolliver, Wuerffel, Everett, Blake, Brooks, Bouman, and Brees. No, I don't want to go back to that, but SP would never let that happen, even if we did mortgage the future to get Burrow. SP and Ireland undrafted free agents alone would get us to 5-11, alone, at worst every year.
 

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I was there for Hebert, Fourcase, Hobert, Tolliver, Wuerffel, Everett, Blake, Brooks, Bouman, and Brees. No, I don't want to go back to that, but SP would never let that happen, even if we did mortgage the future to get Burrow. SP and Ireland undrafted free agents alone would get us to 5-11, alone, at worst every year.

Man the drugs you have are better than mine!

In essence you are saying add Joe subtract just about everyone and they win 5?

So you think Sean is worth five wins with sheetty talent? So does that mean drew is two wins better that Joe?
 

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Accuracy, Accuracy, Accuracy, Accuracy !
ACCURACY IS KING!

Accuracy and Decision making/IQ are the 2 most important traits in a great QB imo and Burrow is elite in both. It annoys me when people talk about how strong an arm a QB has, he can throw lasers, has quick release, blah blah blah. Those are so insignificant really. Can he deliver that ball accurately and can he make the right decision in a timely manner? Burrow excels at both. My biggest concern about Burrow is can he perform like he has been if he goes under center.
 

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