Why white people keep calling the cops on black Americans (1 Viewer)

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Good article. Not sure if EE or PDB is best place for this. Mods please move if necessary.

The video Flip posted in the Fathers thread reminded me of this article. My girlfriend's brother told his son who was just going to college that there may be times dealing with the police that you have to choose between your dignity and your life. And as hard as it is to swallow ALWAYS choose your life.

This is ridiculous. The BBQ, The Air BnB, the Yale common room, reading a book

I'm just reading about the swimming pool one today. The cops weren't called but they were threatened with calling the cops
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Tina, a black woman from Milwaukee, was on a road trip with her eldest son when she had an unpleasant encounter with the police of a sort that’s all too common.

After stopping to fuel up the car, she realized that she hadn’t gotten the correct change from the station attendant. The attendant angrily disagreed.

“I said, “Let’s not argue with the man. Let’s go get the police,” Tina, whose name has been changed to protect her confidentiality, told me. ”When the police came, instead of him talking to me like I’m talking to you — respectfully — he got up in my face and told me to ‘shut up.’” When Tina told the police officer that he shouldn’t address her that way, he arrested Tina and her son.

The result seems drastic. But after hundreds of conversations in communities across the country that I conducted for my research on policing in America, I’ve learned that such testimonies are a common experience for black Americans, no matter the locality. I am a political scientist who studies how Americans understand government through their direct experience of it, which, for many, is interacting with the police. The gulf between how black America and white America experience the police is vast.

Many other Americans are waking up to the reality that white people have the power to turn minor disputes, or their own anxiety, into interventions by the police (which is hardly news in the black community).

Such incidents keep making news, including a white student at Yale calling police officers on a black student who had nodded off in a common area and a white woman in Oakland calling the police on a black family barbecuing in a part of a park that allowed barbecuing. (Three years ago at Yale, a campus police officer pulled a gun on a black student — the son of a prominent New York Times columnist — who was casually walking through campus.)

Many people are rightly questioning why black people going about their business are aggressively policed for selling loose cigarettes, barbecuing, sipping a latte, and simply existing in public spaces.....................

Whites calling the police have an altogether different experience. They do not endure long response times, treatment that negates their victimization, or the slide from victim to suspect in the eyes of the police. They may even gain a sense of personal efficacy in seeing the state perform its basic function of protecting them.

As Charles Epp and his colleagues wrote in their book Pulled Over, which grew out of a large representative survey analysis of white and black drivers, even when whites have involuntary contact with police, they overwhelmingly experience the police as helpful, benevolent, fair, and efficient problem solvers.

This mismatch in experience equates to powerful incentives for people of one racial group to call the police on others who could be seen as breaching “white space.” It’s also a powerful disincentive for black people to call the police in almost any situation except when their lives depend on it........................

Why white people keep calling the cops on black Americans
 

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huh.
You would think I would have run into this tactic at our indoctrination seminars
Unless of course I did and then opted for the memory wipe
This is tricky
It's especially tricky because this could also be a case of Right Wing lemmings believing even the most stupid lies told to them by their handlers. This is a tough call. Can't know for sure whose indoctrination is responsible for this quagmire. Only one way to find out? I'll lay the bait...

Who is going to pay for the wall?
 

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Yes, that's one of the questions.

Another concern is that the publicity around this actually discourages people from working things out. Take the two apartment building examples in this thread.

The first could have been so easily shut down as a problem if the guy had simply said that he was thankfull that the woman was looking out for all of the tenants and showed her his key. That's all it would have taken.

In the example Oye showed, it's a little hard to say why things turned out the way they did because the first of the encounter was not shown. But there is no doubt in my mind that at least one of the guys had these types of instances in his mind while he was filming and that he was itching to post a video of his very own.

Why try to make a negative encounter positive when that would mean missing out on a viral video?
because people shouldn't have to bend over backwards to accommodate racist buttholes.. most of the time they don't learn a lesson until they are publicly shamed.. and rightly so..
 

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huh.
You would think I would have run into this tactic at our indoctrination seminars
Unless of course I did and then opted for the memory wipe
This is tricky
You are a liberal from the south. In all reality, they don’t think much of you either. I’m surprised they gave you a real name tag at the seminar. Just joshing.
 

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It's especially tricky because this could also be a case of Right Wing lemmings believing even the most stupid lies told to them by their handlers. This is a tough call. Can't know for sure whose indoctrination is responsible for this quagmire. Only one way to find out? I'll lay the bait...

Who is going to pay for the wall?
Were you running the name tag table at the seminar? I didn’t mean to offend you.

And are you trying to equate support for the wall to racism?
 

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This is the EE. Keep politics out of here. I dont want to hear right wing, liberal, etc from here on out.

This is a social issue.
 

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My bad, I was just messing with guido ( i think he knows that I was being jocular) no harm meant.
 

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fify

i'm still going to have to bill you for the time spent in my safe room - snowflakes are hypersensitive as you probably have surmised
My wife tells me that often. I think it’s funny as hell, she, not so much. Now in fairness to me, she is the brunt of the humor.
 

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This is the EE. Keep politics out of here. I dont want to hear right wing, liberal, etc from here on out.

This is a social issue.
Haven’t social issues become the basis for politics?

Number 1 issue with most conservatives is abortion.

Number 1 issue with liberals seems to be inclusion (everyone not white or male heterosexual).
 

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She is a dancer so obviously she’s wiser than most
I think her wisdom comes from the choreo side. (That’s why I fell in love with her at 14)

I couldn’t help myself. I am inquisitive by nature and can’t pass up an opportunity to ask a question.
 
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/portland-oregon-hotel-doubletree-calls-cops-on-black-guest-employees-on-leave/?fbclid=IwAR0neWTN6TFm-tcNwjL-YN5VfMes6togiUugD83jJ9MzmNZeuDZtzo9gz60

Massey was returning from a concert Saturday night when he said he went to a quiet corner of the hotel lobby to take a phone call from his mother when a security officer – now dubbed "Hotel Earl" by the internet – approached him and things got heated, reports CBS News correspondent DeMarco Morgan.

The 71-year-old security guard, Earl Wesley Meyers, had asked Massey for his room number. Massey said he didn't remember it and requested privacy for his phone call. Instead, Meyers called for the police to escort him off the property.
 

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I’m saying they are waaaaay more racist. All the while projecting it on us. It’s a classic liberal tactic.
It sure seems like you are defending racism by saying other people are more racist.

So I guess you think racism is a far more pervasive problem than even us naive woke liberals believe.
 

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Portland, and Oregon as a whole, has a southern like past when it comes to racism. There is no doubt about that. However, Portland now is straight up a liberal paradise. Oregon’s dems now hold the governors mansion, a super majority in BOTH houses and ( I could be mistaken) holds all state level elected positions.

There are pockets however.
Just like Colorado has Colorado Springs and the eastern plains, California has the Central Valley; Oregon has East Oregon.
 

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Portland, and Oregon as a whole, has a southern like past when it comes to racism. There is no doubt about that. However, Portland now is straight up a liberal paradise. Oregon’s dems now hold the governors mansion, a super majority in BOTH houses and ( I could be mistaken) holds all state level elected positions.

There are pockets however.
Just like Colorado has Colorado Springs and the eastern plains, California has the Central Valley; Oregon has East Oregon.
I’ve found that there are about the same percentage of racists (of the black/white variety) throughout most of the country, but in places like the Northwest they don’t get as many opportunities to show it.
 

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