Will A Successful Saints Season Hurt Payton’s Trade Value? (1 Viewer)

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Jim Mora established the first winning culture here way before Payton. Ditka destroyed that. There is no way that Mickey will give up the rights to Payton for a 2nd or less. If so, he should be immediately fired. As stated above by another poster, Hall of Fame coaches don't come on the market often. So when they do they can the team holding their rights can ask a fortune. If a team can spend a lot of draft picks for a player, they will do it for a coach that will be there for a while. The two 1's and 2 2's is a fair asking price. Especially if the team wanting him is already stacked and just needs a high caliber coach. I doubt Coach will come back to coach a bad team. He may if he was a lot younger but he is too old to do a major rebuild.

You think the one Super Bowl out of 16 years with Brees is enough to get Payton into the hall? I think he needs another. And I think that’s part of the reason he would consider coming back and why it needs to be the right situation.
 

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Jim Mora established the first winning culture here way before Payton. Ditka destroyed that. There is no way that Mickey will give up the rights to Payton for a 2nd or less. If so, he should be immediately fired. As stated above by another poster, Hall of Fame coaches don't come on the market often. So when they do they can the team holding their rights can ask a fortune. If a team can spend a lot of draft picks for a player, they will do it for a coach that will be there for a while. The two 1's and 2 2's is a fair asking price. Especially if the team wanting him is already stacked and just needs a high caliber coach. I doubt Coach will come back to coach a bad team. He may if he was a lot younger but he is too old to do a major rebuild.

Jim Mora established a regular season winning culture here….that is true….but he never won a playoff game in his career….and when he left the Saints were in sad shape….The reason I love CSP so much is because he is the polar opposite of Mora….he knew going into the playoffs you need to take chances to win…Mora never got that…
 

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And at the time Gruden was traded, he wasn't a SB winning coach. He became one AFTER the trade.


While technically you are correct, the team that wants CSP will be bidding against the Saints. We own the rights to his contract, but don't have to pay him. That future team will be bidding against the Saints, and our ability to STOP him from coaching for the remaining duration of his Saints contract. If teams want to wait that out (another 2-3 seasons?), then your statement is true. Until then, I'm willing to bet that a team(s) will trade assets to procure CSPs services SOONER, rather than later.


Agree with this wholeheartedly. No doubt, more than a 2nd rounder; although maybe not 2 1sts and 2 2nds. To be perfectly honest, I hope CSP finds the studio to be an immensely less tense, and more cushy gig, and decides to STAY retired. We can speculate and argue about the expected compensation all we want, but of this I am SURE: the moment he signs to coach another team, our existing Saints coaches and staff will be at risk of being poached and promoted....and nothing the Saints can do about that.

Unless CSP hires his old buddies, like Gary Gibbs for DC, etc... Then I'm cool with everything. But I don't think that's very likely...
Good comment.

Loomis won't let him go to another team for a six pack of Bud Light, ain't gonna happen. The Saints hold all the cards in this one if Sean Payton wants to coach in 2023 for a team that he wants to coach for. Given this, Loomis will name his price and stick to it. Does anybody think Loomis will work any different kind of way compared to how he has worked when it came to Saints Free Agent Players who have left? He names his price and they walk if they don't agree. With Sean Payton, if another team comes calling, and CSP wants to go there, Loomis will name his price and wait for the phone call. He does not need to negotiate, the deal is whatever deal he says it is, if he wants two 1's and two 2's, then he can just say it and wait for the phone call. I could see him cutting back his demands to one 1st and one 2nd, IF the new team agrees that poaching any Saints coaches is off the table for two years.

Saints would be crazy to let him coach another team without getting a Gruden+ level deal. It makes no sense, why give up an asset for cheap? Just because HOF coaches don't make it to "free agency" should not result in a low price when a coach does become avaialble.
 
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