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Or upset?

You would think that the Saints starting qb doing well would be a great thing, but this is 2020, and people like to be proven right, so I imagine people will be upset if he doesn’t fail.

Think me odd (and who doesn’t) with this topic, but looking through Twitter it seems like people are going to tune in Sunday at noon in hopes that he fails (and by extension the Saints), where I am not sure how they will react if he comes out and puts up a great game.
 

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Of course, I trust SP to make the right decision more than myself....I'm all in on Taysom!!!!
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So, here is my take ...
If he does well I will be happy. I want to win.
But I just don’t think he will. It feels like a ... “he earned a chance to show us what he can do” ... kind of thing. And we are possibly risking a loss to do that. His first start ever, over a veteran QB like Winston? I don’t like the decision.
I am interested to see what he can do but I don’t like the risk.
If he does do well, then we can’t over react either. He will have to show he can keep it up. It’s a tough spot for him. I wish him luck. But we can’t afford a loss here.
 

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Is English that hard to comprehend?
Not when used properly, in a coherent manner.

You said his that and my 30 is not the same, no sheet I don't play pro football.
And Taysom doesn't hang off power poles, and hanging off power poles has nothing to do with playing football... so why even bring that up?

Again makes sense if you comprehend English.
Again, not when used properly, in a coherent manner.

Ok so drew doesn't like to get hit and tries to avoid it yet has 5 cracked ribs and a punctured look. Taysom is a quarterback that likes to run and takes a lot more hits. Thank you for making my point.
I didn't make your point for you, at all.

Again one player does all and does not take up multiple roster spots on a roster that is limited to the number of available spots.

Yes other players play those 4 positions but we do not have and read carefully ONE player on the roster that does all of the above.
Yeah, I read that carefully. Yet, even if you remove Taysom from the team, it doesn't mean you'll need 4 extra players to get the same production that you get with Taysom, because the team already has players who perform those functions.
 
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Not when used properly, in a coherent manner.


And Taysom doesn't hang off power poles, and hanging off power poles has nothing to do with playing football... so why even bring that up?


Again, not when used properly, in a coherent manner.


I didn't make your point for you, at all.


Yeah, I read that carefully. Yet, even if you remove Taysom from the team, it doesn't mean you'll need 4 extra players to get the same production that you get with Taysom, because the team already has players who perform those functions.
Dude I'll just end the conversation here because since I'm not a "vip contributer " I'll be banned soon when you piss and moan to to the mods because you can't make a valid rebuttal, or was that word to big for you again?

You did make my point, reread your response.

The ream has PLAYERS, not a single player.

So GOODBYE
 
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I think most will be happy.

I’ve actually been pretty defensive of both Taysom and Winston during the time we thought Winston would start and now with Taysom reportedly being the guy.

With Winston, I tend to get irritated at the 30 INT being the main argument against him. It’s a lot of INT’s for sure, but that was by far his worst year (INT-wise) and as many people have pointed out, he wasn’t in an offensive system with Arians that was based around taking the safer shots. SP has built an offense that lives on consistency, and until we see what Jameis can do in a better situation (in more than half a game he was thrown into), I think it’s silly to just assume Jameis would be the same Jameis. He easily could be, but players get better in new environments all the time.

With Taysom, it’s very similar. Not really sure how so many are ready and willing to just write him off as a QB, using his career 18 pass attempts as some sort of complete body of work to actually form an opinion, most of which seem to be “if he could actually throw he would’ve thrown more by now” or “he’s bad at progressions and tucks and runs too easily”. A lot of Taysom’s snaps come on 3rd & manageable, and if he thinks he can get the yardage on the ground on his one snap, I don’t really blame him for tucking and running (in those limited situations). I don’t think any of us really even know what a full time Taysom-centered offense would look like, or how well he can actually throw in a game plan tailored to him. It could look like a glorified wild cat, or it could look like a modified air-raid (think ARI with Kingsbury and Murray’s ability on the ground). He very well may suck at throwing, but there’s just not enough evidence out there to make that conclusion yet.

Then again— I know it’s a fan forum and we all like to make our opinions known and rag on others when we disagree (and I’m not complaining- I enjoy the back and forths I read). I guess I’ve just been a little surprised that so many people seem to be firmly on one side of the fence or the other with this one!

My wife always says I’m too indecisive, though. But I still haven’t decided if she’s right or not.
 

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Or upset?

You would think that the Saints starting qb doing well would be a great thing, but this is 2020, and people like to be proven right, so I imagine people will be upset if he doesn’t fail.

Think me odd (and who doesn’t) with this topic, but looking through Twitter it seems like people are going to tune in Sunday at noon in hopes that he fails (and by extension the Saints), where I am not sure how they will react if he comes out and puts up a great game.
I think those people would rather he fail then to admit that they were wrong about him. These people are pansies.
 

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It is only strange, to those to do not like it, or do not agree with it. Saying it is strange, is cover for one’s negative view. This.is a fan forum. You get a lot of varied questions, views....etc. That is how a forum works. If every question, view, were essentially the same, what would you have?

This is a forum. (IE; open discussion). 😉
I disagree, I think it's a strange question to ask whether or not people would be happy if a player on their favorite team did well. It's at the very least an unusual or uncommon question. I do think it's a fair question though.
 
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Winston is only 4 years younger than Hill and we have no idea at what age either one of them will start to decline, so I think that age difference is insignificant.
I love Taysom and the energy he brings. But the age difference is significant when one has5 years starting experience and one has never started. Sean has sean the flaws of Winston over years of starting and can craft an offense around him quicker and at a younger age. My biggest issue is the only real argument against Winston is last year and the picks. Same philosophy in football as life, sheet happens, live and learn.
 

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So, here is my take ...
If he does well I will be happy. I want to win.
But I just don’t think he will. It feels like a ... “he earned a chance to show us what he can do” ... kind of thing. And we are possibly risking a loss to do that. His first start ever, over a veteran QB like Winston? I don’t like the decision.
I am interested to see what he can do but I don’t like the risk.
If he does do well, then we can’t over react either. He will have to show he can keep it up. It’s a tough spot for him. I wish him luck. But we can’t afford a loss here.
Winston is a veteran QB but NOT in our system. You would really trust a guy that's barely been in the system over someone that's been in it for 3 years? Unless he has a photographic memory I'm not starting the new guy over someone that knows what he's doing.
 

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Dude I'll just end the conversation here because since I'm not a "vip contributer " I'll be banned soon when you piss and moan to to the mods because you can't make a valid rebuttal, or was that word to big for you again?

You did make my point, reread your response.

The ream has PLAYERS, not a single player.

So GOODBYE
I've read the posts between the two of you and you haven't made a valid point at all and then pretty much said he's stupid because rebuttal is too big a word for him. I'm pretty certain that isn't the way for saintsreport.com
 

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I hope Taysom fails. I mean, just look at that evil grin when he makes a play.

:kidding:
Speaking of quirks. (and I realized you are being sarcastic) Has anyone else noticed the curious shriek Tayson's utters when he scores or has a big play? His love of the game is infectious.

I can't recall any other player in any team sport that has his attitude and willingness to do anything including grunt work in the trenches to help win.

If he does become a starter and has even modest success, there is going to be a movie one day.
 

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So, here is my take ...
If he does well I will be happy. I want to win.
But I just don’t think he will. It feels like a ... “he earned a chance to show us what he can do” ... kind of thing. And we are possibly risking a loss to do that. His first start ever, over a veteran QB like Winston? I don’t like the decision.
I am interested to see what he can do but I don’t like the risk.
If he does do well, then we can’t over react either. He will have to show he can keep it up. It’s a tough spot for him. I wish him luck. But we can’t afford a loss here.
Undrafted, Four serious injuries. Atypical college QB not in the NFL mold.

Yet he is here. Garners an amount of press coverage completely out of proportion to his stats. And, seems to always exceed expectations in the end.

I'd be foolish to underestimate his chances or second guess Sean Payton's faith.
 

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Or upset?

You would think that the Saints starting qb doing well would be a great thing, but this is 2020, and people like to be proven right, so I imagine people will be upset if he doesn’t fail.

Think me odd (and who doesn’t) with this topic, but looking through Twitter it seems like people are going to tune in Sunday at noon in hopes that he fails (and by extension the Saints), where I am not sure how they will react if he comes out and puts up a great game.
If he scrubs, it will be ugly. Twitter been killing this move all week...rightfully so. Only thing I can think about is:

1. Sean sees something we dont, and we about to be dangerous

2. It's a Kabuki dance to get them prepped for Taysom and we kill them over the top, taking the whole top of the defense with Jameis...

3. We are stupid, and Sean ego is going unchecked...or

4. He is being forced by sponsors to play Taysom, which is where the Racism lean may have some legs
 

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