Judge_Smails
Above Average Yachtsman
Offline
You da man. I would have replied and said “citing my lawyer’s mandate, I decline to speak.”
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: this_feature_currently_requires_accessing_site_using_safari
You da man. I would have replied and said “citing my lawyer’s mandate, I decline to speak.”
Mickey Loomis didn't hire Jim Haslett. Randy Mueller hire Jim Haslett.If you liked the Haslett era. Well yeah you are right. Nothing to see here. At least we will get a good first round draft pick. Wait a minute….
Good points. I would not doubt Loomis might just retire since he is near that age and ride into sunset.Mueller got axed after the 01’ season. Benson claimed it was due Mueller not consulting him on the Ricky Williams trade but it’s been speculated that he was fired for non-football reasons.
So technically Loomis became full GM in 02’ with an inherited coach.
He hired Payton. That earns him a pass on Allen in my book. But what he does going forward is going to determine his worth in this rebuild.
I agree with everything that you said above. But Loomis already earn his credit as being one of the best GM in the NFL with the hire of Sean Payton, which lead to a Superbowl title, several NFC Championship appearance, and several NFC South division titles.Mueller got axed after the 01’ season. Benson claimed it was due Mueller not consulting him on the Ricky Williams trade but it’s been speculated that he was fired for non-football reasons.
So technically Loomis became full GM in 02’ with an inherited coach.
He hired Payton. That earns him a pass on Allen in my book. But what he does going forward is going to determine his worth in this rebuild.
I think it’s becoming clear that DA is one and done.Ross Jackson said on his post game podcast that the Saints probably hired the wrong coach. Dudes been an eternal optimist all year on sounding the alarm over Dennis Allen, Jackson says that, you're in trouble.
It’s like when Cronkite said the war in Vietnam couldn’t be won.Ross Jackson said on his post game podcast that the Saints probably hired the wrong coach. Dudes been an eternal optimist all year on sounding the alarm over Dennis Allen, Jackson says that, you're in trouble.
Perhaps. But also look at the fact that the only reason Loomis wasn’t run out on a rail along with Payton after the 3 consecutive 7-9 seasons of 2014-16 was because Jeff Ireland helped refocus a really poor draft and scouting strategy that had led poor talent and poor depth at all 3 phases.So I don't think the Mickey Loomis needs to evaluated anything. He's already proven his value.
If you liked the Haslett era. Well yeah you are right. Nothing to see here. At least we will get a good first round draft pick. Wait a minute…
Well, during that time the Director of college scouting was Rick Reiprish and the Director of player personnel was Ryan Pace. Rick Reiprish was let go. He went to the Steelers. And Ryan Pace eventually went to Chicago Bears. So I doubt that Loomis was calling the shots on what players to bring in during that time.Perhaps. But also look at the fact that the only reason Loomis wasn’t run out on a rail along with Payton after the 3 consecutive 7-9 seasons of 2014-16 was because Jeff Ireland helped refocus a really poor draft and scouting strategy that had led poor talent and poor depth at all 3 phases.
Ireland is as much responsible for the success we had from 2017 to 2021 as Payton and Loomis.
Ireland is in the building now. But he won’t be forever.
So I guess what I was implying is that Loomis was supposed to be a “cap guy” and we are in cap hell more often than not in his tenure. Loomis isn’t really a talent guy as aside from the 06’ draft where we were drafting in the 2nd spot of every round - his drafts were lacking until Ireland joined the team.
Which begs the question - he isn’t great with the cap and he’s not a talent evaluator. So what is it he actually does well?
I’m seriously asking.
So I guess what I was implying is that Loomis was supposed to be a “cap guy” and we are in cap hell more often than not in his tenure. Loomis isn’t really a talent guy as aside from the 06’ draft where we were drafting in the 2nd spot of every round - his drafts were lacking until Ireland joined the team.
Which begs the question - he isn’t great with the cap and he’s not a talent evaluator. So what is it he actually does well?
I’m seriously asking.