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Anyone read this book? Apparently there is a new book out or coming out that pretty much gives us the quotes from Jesus that are pretty much out of character for what we think of as Jesus. Not really substance, but mostly his tone. I'm interested in hearing someone who's read the book's take.

Edit: apparently it is a popular title, this particular author is Phyllis Tickle [no lie]
 
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I've never heard of this particular book, but I do think that there are many of his "quotes" that don't really fit the mold of how many people view him. He was a much more polarizing figure back in his day than he seems to be in our culture.
 
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I've never heard of this particular book, but I do think that there are many of his "quotes" that don't really fit the mold of how many people view him. He was a much more polarizing figure back in his day than he seems to be in our culture.

Yeah, cuz Jesus isn't polarizing in our culture. /sarcasmoff
 

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Yeah, cuz Jesus isn't polarizing in our culture. /sarcasmoff

Easy there, e-tough. "Christianity," "the Religious Right," and "Christians" may be polarizing, but I think the overwhelming majority of Americans would have a favorable impression of Jesus the person.
 
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Easy there, e-tough. "Christianity," "the Religious Right," and "Christians" may be polarizing, but I think the overwhelming majority of Americans would have a favorable impression of Jesus the person.

Touche. I agree 100%, and I was laughing when I wrote it cuz it was just too easy. :ezbill:

One question though, is your definition of "our culture" strictly American, or the global culture that exists in almost everything we do? Cuz if it's global then the polarization goes beyond the dogma of American religious politics.

And I've never been called e-tough before. I'm blushing. :hihi:
 

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Phyllis Tickler would be my name if I was a chick and in porn.
 

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So is the entire book written in red ink?
 

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Sounds interesting, me being somewhat agnostic, yet with an interest in theology (mainly from a sociological point of view).
 

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Richard Bach of "Johnathan Livingston Seagull" fame did a book about...well...the opening lines say it all:

"There was a Master come unto the earth, born in the holy land of Indiana, raised in the mystical hills east of Fort Wayne..."

The book is called "Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah"

Hoya, check out the quotes page:
http://www.geocities.com/heartland/prairie/7454/rbach.html
 

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One question though, is your definition of "our culture" strictly American, or the global culture that exists in almost everything we do? Cuz if it's global then the polarization goes beyond the dogma of American religious politics.

I think Jesus himself has garnered a generally favorable impression not only in our American culture but throughout the world. Even those who do not buy into his divinity still view him as a positive historical figure. But like I said, I'm only referring to Jesus, not the movement his life has inspired.
 

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People have a favorable opinion because they make up Jesus into who they want him to be. Johnny Cash hit the nail on the head when he made the song Your own personal Jesus. I see Jesus being polarizing and offensive to all peoples and all times. He could have come at any point in time and he would have been killed just the same.
 
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People have a favorable opinion because they make up Jesus into who they want him to be. Johnny Cash hit the nail on the head when he made the song Your own personal Jesus. I see Jesus being polarizing and offensive to all peoples and all times. He could have come at any point in time and he would have been killed just the same.

Cash wasn't the original. That is a Depeche Mode song.

Cash was a devout Christian.
 

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People have a favorable opinion because they make up Jesus into who they want him to be. Johnny Cash hit the nail on the head when he made the song Your own personal Jesus. I see Jesus being polarizing and offensive to all peoples and all times. He could have come at any point in time and he would have been killed just the same.


I agree, to a point, with your first two sentences, however you lost me with the rest. I do believe that many people perceive Jesus in a way that best suits their own agenda. The Religious Right emphasizes a platform they feel reflects "Christ-like" principles, yet issues like poverty, economic justice, and AIDS (etc.) often take a backseat (issues that Christ undoubtedly would have been consumed with). Yet, on the other hand, other people often emphasize the love, mercy, and grace that Jesus displayed, while ignoring the fact that he also balanced it with a challenge to live a life in right-standing with God.

I'm not sure how Jesus is offensive to "all peoples and all times." Can you give me an example of what you mean by that? What leads you to believe he would have been killed regardless of what "time" he lived in? Do you think he would be killed here in 21st century America (and why)?
 
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