COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (18 Viewers)

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Which would you rather get?
Neither of course but given the choice perhaps the flu. But with the frenzy to find a corona vaccination - give me a week and I may change my mind. What about you? As for the flu comparison - simply that since we don't have any confidence in the corona mortality rate - the flu is more likely to be the bad bug to find you - particularly in the States. Not my intent to convince anyone on here that one virus is more/less favorable over the other. Btw...the comparison is not being made just by me.

“Mostly, the advice is stay tuned,” says Joseph Vinetz, MD, a Yale Medicine infectious disease specialist. “The bottom line is that there is a new flu-like bug. With a new virus in a culture dish, they can start looking at the biology and making drugs to treat it. Viral sequences have become available and will jump-start understanding the biology of this virus, including diagnosis and spread in human populations."

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is monitoring the risk to the American public, and investigations are underway to learn more about the disease. “We really don’t know much yet,” Dr. Vinetz says, adding that there is no indication yet that SARS-CoV-2 is worse than influenza. “This is a time of watchful waiting.”

 
Neither of course but given the choice perhaps the flu. But with the frenzy to find a corona vaccination - give me a week and I may change my mind. What about you? As for the flu comparison - simply that since we don't have any confidence in the corona mortality rate - the flu is more likely to be the bad bug to find you - particularly in the States. Not my intent to convince anyone on here that one virus is more/less favorable over the other. Btw...the comparison is not being made just by me.

“Mostly, the advice is stay tuned,” says Joseph Vinetz, MD, a Yale Medicine infectious disease specialist. “The bottom line is that there is a new flu-like bug. With a new virus in a culture dish, they can start looking at the biology and making drugs to treat it. Viral sequences have become available and will jump-start understanding the biology of this virus, including diagnosis and spread in human populations."

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is monitoring the risk to the American public, and investigations are underway to learn more about the disease. “We really don’t know much yet,” Dr. Vinetz says, adding that there is no indication yet that SARS-CoV-2 is worse than influenza. “This is a time of watchful waiting.”


That’s partially my point - we have very little knowledge of this virus, what it does, and how to treat it . . . at least by reference to flu, which we have been fighting for decades. This virus is novel, it is new. And it kills.

There isn’t going to be a vaccine in a month. And there is room to question how effective vaccine will be given the evidence of near-term re-infection. The disease has flu-like symptoms but it is the pneumonia (fluid on the lungs) that require hospitalization - and we’re only learning about organ damage it does.

My neighbor went to the doctor this past Monday and she had flu. They sent her home with a Tamiflu script and I just saw her walking her dogs. Flu poses a minuscule threat to reasonably healthy humans between age 5 and 75. Three people have died of the Wuhan coronavirus outside of China. One was 80, the other two were 44 and 39.

Doctor Li was 33. I just don’t see the point of the flu comparison . . . at least not when it is offered “for perspective.”
 
Which would you rather get?
It would depend on the particular strain of the flu. The obvious choice is this years strain. It's been mild compared to other years. My
daughter and 6 month old granddaughter caught the A strain and were fine a few days later. If it's an avian strain with up to a 60%
mortality rate,the answer would be the corona virus.
 
Comparing the coronavirus to the Flu is really kind of silly. Yeah, the flu kills a lot of people every single year and Coronavirus hasn't killed that many. The flu also doesn't kill that many the first two months it becomes established every year, it's the last 6 months of the seasonal flu that is so dangerous because it's had time to spread the globe.
 
It would depend on the particular strain of the flu. The obvious choice is this years strain. It's been mild compared to other years. My
daughter and 6 month old granddaughter caught the A strain and were fine a few days later. If it's an avian strain with up to a 60%
mortality rate,the answer would be the corona virus.

When people make the “for perspective” reference, they’re talking about seasonal/annual flu. I know that virus varies but the clinicals are substantially similar.
 
The disease has flu-like symptoms but it is the pneumonia (fluid on the lungs) that require hospitalization - and we’re only learning about organ damage it does.
The organ damage, so far, seems to be very exceptional. I assume we'll know more in the future ... but I don't take liver and kidney failure as default symptoms of COVID-19.
 
The organ damage, so far, seems to be very exceptional. I assume we'll know more in the future ... but I don't take liver and kidney failure as default symptoms of COVID-19.

There seems to be some pathology with the heart.
 
Heart disease about 600,000

Accidents about 130,000

Total deaths in US are about 2.5 million per year

One estimate from a Chinese researcher states they expect about 60% of the earth's population to get covid. (Edited to add: 60% could be infected if we are unable to control it.)

Even if the death rate drops to 1% we are still talking about the possibility of 1.5 million Americans.

Why is this so difficult?

Let's stop comparing this to other things that kill us. It doesn't do anyone any good.
 
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Heart disease about 600,000

Accidents about 130,000

Total deaths in US are about 2.5 million per year

One estimate from a Chinese researcher states they expect about 60% of the earth's population to get covid.

Even if the death rate drops to 1% we are still talking about the possibility of 1.5 million Americans.

Why is this so difficult?

Let's stop comparing this to other things that kill us. It doesn't do anyone any good.

This is a bit misleading as the Chinese researcher said 'could get', not will get covid.

Also, being alarmist like this only serves for people to hoard supplies and that normally ends up hurting those who cannot afford to hoard.

Then if that 60% number does come to fruition, the drastic differences between the haves and have nots will be even worse.
 
Not tossing the paper aside summarily ... but everything on medrxiv.org is a preprint — a preliminary, non-peer-reviewed study. Nothing you read there is near conclusive. Other researchers need to replicate the study, other possible explanations for the preliminary observations need to be evaluated, and then confirmed or ruled out.
 
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